Talk:Walk off the Earth

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Walk off the Earth

Please note the (lack of) capitalisation in 'off' in the band's name.

Yes PLEASE.

Ran out of time to do much on this. Some potential sources to flesh out the article (I don't normally do much with bands, so I'm not sure how reliable these are)

[1]--Interview with band member.
[2] Only potentially RS I can find the names of all the band members. Their Facebook page works too.
[3] has some outdated information.

Hobit (talk) 02:18, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Hobit, nice to see someone taking charge. Two suggestions? 1) everything save the first sentence in the lede is either redundant or misleading; 2) Gianni didn't make all their videos in the old days, and they certainly weren't always inexpensive, and today it's their record company pouring money into promotion. Cheers.

"was performed by all five members on a single guitar." It clearly wasn't.

Bullshit you sophomoric whatever.

It's mimed, and includes pitch correction amongst other giveaways. - Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.196.202.18 (talk) 10:01, 9 January 2012 (UTC) *I've suspected that. Is there any reliable source making that claim? Hobit (talk) 12:44, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Joel, the drummer of the band, has stated the following on Reddit:

"Because we sell the audio tracks for our covers on iTunes and CDBaby, we do a lot of post-production. The mics you see were used to create a scratch-track that initially accompanied the video, and we use that to overdub the parts that you hear in the final product. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Joel"

source: [4], second comment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perseus1977 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing 'clear' about the song not being performed on a single guitar. Anyone with an ounce of music theory and guitar theory can see the arrangement was laid out meticulously. Marshall's part is the 6th string tuned up to D, Sarah's part uses the middle strings, and Gianni's uses the high strings. There are only three people actually 'playing' the guitar (in an orthodox fashion). That the track could have been prerecorded is almost a given, as it's been found to perfectly match the original, something which would lead one to suspect the original was used to lay out the original arrangement. But there is nothing clear about the song not being played by all five at once.

In the original video, Sarah was on the higher strings, but other than that, what you say is correct. They played the song live on Ellen, and while it didn't have the same studio polish, it was clear that they all played the one guitar at the same time, and also said aloud that they did the same in the original. In the viral video, it's obvious that the audio we hear was re-recorded (or recorded beforehand) with things tuned in a way they couldn't be achieved in a purely live setting. So it would seem that they really did all play the guitar, but the audio in the video is a studio recreation. Either way, I have modified the wording slightly to say that "the five musicians are shown playing a single guitar." Whichever side of the fence you reside on with the issue of the sound, that wording is completely true, as they are shown playing the guitar, whether that's really what we're hearing or not. MXVN (talk) 22:35, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Instruments

Since one of the draws to this band (IMHO) is that they are all multi-instrumentalists and use odd instruments, I added that "Beard Guy" plays the Melodica in several videos. I know this is not strong proof that he does in fact play the instrument, but you can hear it being played in several of the videos including Summer Vibe and Champs Élysées. I know that I wondered, at first, what this instrument might be called, so I think this is important information. Jslist (talk) 15:33, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gianni also plays coffee cup and microwave. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ8nkJ1_Ee0

What does "Gone viral" really mean?

The article states that the video of "I Knew You Were Trouble" has "gone viral". This is stated matter-of-factly and cites a source that also describes it as "viral". But what does that really mean? It'ss a subjective label. Content creators and media use the term "viral video" to stress that something is popular, but I think Wikipedia articles should be more objective in how they describe popularity.

I suggest rewording the sentence to reference more objective facts, such as it being the 4th most popular YouTube video on their channel, or simply state that after getting 1 million views in 2 days MetroLyrics said that it had gone viral.

--Ilikeimac (talk) 00:29, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Source 12 no longer links to the article in question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.179.145.145 (talk) 22:30, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Please be more specific & list the URL. Ref # 12 worked for me. Peaceray (talk) 04:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 October 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 14:08, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Walk off the Earth → Walk Off the Earth – "Walk off" is a phrasal verb, thus meaning that the word "off" in this context is an adverb and not a preposition. Adverbs are always capitalized in titles, such as Turn On the Radio, All I Ask For Anymore, etc. The Allmusic bio also spells "Off" with a capitalization. Although the band does seem to waffle on the actual capitalization, MOS:TMCAPS suggests deferring to the most common English capitalization whenever possible. As "Off" is an adverb, it should be capitalized per standard English grammar if nothing else. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 01:52, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support move per past cases with phrasal verbs. O.N.R. ^(talk) 04:35, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Off in the band's name is not an adverb or part of a phrasal verb; it's a normal prepositional usage (wikt:off, def. 1 under "Preposition"). Walk off can be a phrasal verb (as in "Walk off that injury, wuss!"), but not here. Deor (talk) 05:35, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I agree with Deor's interpretation. This is not "Walk Off" as a verb, like walking off your jitters before a stressful confrontation. The verb is just "Walk", and the walking is continuing until it leads "off the Earth", as it would if we were to walk off a cliff or climb up a mountain or ride over the horizon. —BarrelProof (talk) 07:43, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is the name of a band. Grammatical analysis (and Newtonian dynamics) is irrelevant in the same way that for Quiet Sun astronomical analysis is irrelevant. Thincat (talk) 10:50, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We have rules for the capitalization of titles of works that require the "grammatical analysis" of individual words. That something is a proper name or a title doesn't exempt it from such analysis. Deor (talk) 15:48, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Formal names are not "titles of works", so your manual of style guideline citation is irrelevant. -- Netoholic @ 19:49, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proper names such as band names are not exempt from MOS:TM / WP:TITLETM analysis of standard English formatting. We do not just follow the nonstandard formatting of self-published material. MOS:TM / WP:TITLETM applies. A previous case that I recall is the two RM discussions recorded at Talk:Find a Grave. That site capitalizes the "a" in the middle of its name, but Wikipedia does not. Also see MOS:MUSICCAPS, which explicitly says that "Standard English text formatting and capitalization rules apply to the names of bands and individual artists". —BarrelProof (talk) 22:40, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Thincat's reasoning is strongest, but if I were having to apply grammatical logic to it, then I'm inclined to agree with Deor's. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:37, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per format used in reliable journalistic sources associated with the topic.[5][6][7][8] Editor interpretation of verb phrases, etc do not apply to formal names. -- Netoholic @ 19:43, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are rather mixed, and many of them even use a capital letter in the "The". Please see the comment above about whether ordinary English styling should apply, e.g., as per MOS:MUSICCAPS / MOS:TM / WP:TITLETM. —BarrelProof (talk) 01:25, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Deor and MOS:TITLECAPS. Darkday (talk) 18:30, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There are sometimes valid reasons to ignore the manual of style, where usage is so overwhelming that we'd be trying to coin new usage. E.g. Bend It Like Beckham. But this isn't one of them. Plenty of sources do use the current form, and it would be quite misleading to title it as proposed, since (as noted above) it would imply a different kind of walking off than that intended. — Amakuru (talk) 01:15, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per TITLECAPS and just a wee hint of anal retentiveness :) ——SN 54129 09:27, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Band Members

Tokyo Speirs and Adam Michael were added to the band this year (2020). Is there a citation needed? I have researched a bit and do not see any official mentions. Best I can see is their verified Twitter (@WalkOffTheEarth) now has five members. --Jubatus45 (talk) 18:38, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Has Speirs been a touring member since 2006 or 2016? The information presented in the Members section is contradictory. Maybe the error is in the Timeline? Gwladys24 (talk) 10:50, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kids

This band is opening for Lindsey Stirling on her latest tour. I saw them perform in Bridgeport, CT. There were a couple of kids singing solos on some numbers. Please identify the kids. Here's an instagram post showing one of the kids https://www.instagram.com/p/Cwni1YVOQR7/ Skysong263 (talk) 20:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Romeo Eats

I tried to add Romeo Eats Vol.3, which came out on September 14, 2023 (https://www.deezer.com/nl/album/471165435) but I can't handle the coding so if I do it, I mess up the table. Could somebody please do that?

I would also suggest to not list the Romeo Eats albums among the main studio albums. They're more EP's than albums, besides it's a side project with children's songs. Eti erik (talk) 08:47, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]