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Gun control

Per a comment posted on WP:BLPN [1], I have removed a statement regarding Murthy's stance on gun control. The source cited [2] is clearly reporting the NRA's opinion of Murthy, rather than its own - and the NRA is hardly a neutral source regarding such matters. If Murthy's views on the subject are of note, it should be easy enough to find a better source to report on them. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:25, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

If the views of the ADL, SPLC and other left wing extremists can be cited, why discriminate against the NRA? --41.151.227.253 (talk) 17:59, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Improvements

I have been making some improvements to the article today and plan on returning soon - perhaps even tomorrow. Lightbreather (talk) 23:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Attribution of "Vice Admiral" to Dr. Murthy

Could someone check whether the title of Vice Admiral is correct in describing Dr. Murthy? I see no mention of a Navy or Coast Guard service in this article on Dr. Murthy, and would ask that if this title is correct that a source be provided for this. Tony (talk) 05:58, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

See Surgeon General of the United States#Service rank - basically, the title goes with the job. It would probably be worth explaining this in the article somewhere though. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:01, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the explanation, Andy. Would probably be worthwhile to explain this in the article as you suggest. Tony (talk) 19:12, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
Technically speaking, he wouldn't be appointed as a Vice Admiral until sworn in. He is automatically confirmed to the rank of Vice Admiral by the Senate, and requires no separate confirmation. There are cases in the military where a Flag Officer is appointed to a position that doesn't require confirmation and not automatically promoted to the customary rank immediately, and waits to pin the rank on pending Senate confirmation.
This news mentions the confirmation process for an Admiral and delays involved.
http://news.usni.org/2014/11/20/fleet-forces-deputy-co-temporarily-take-command-monday-change-command-cancelled ~John 75.149.54.210 (talk) 00:46, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
While this really has nothing to do with Vivek Murthy, I'd be remiss if I did not help clear this up. This article link does not mention a case where an officer assumes office/command while waiting for confirmation of the Senate. All the article states is that Vice Admiral Phil Davidson, who has already been confirmed by the Senate for appointment as commander of U.S. Fleet Forces Command, but could not assume office because his nominated replacement as commander of the 6th Fleet, Rear Admiral James G. Foggo III, is still awaiting senatorial confirmation. Foggo could not assume command of the 6th Fleet or be promoted to vice admiral until he is confirmed, so the Navy had Davidson remain in his current position as commander of the 6th Fleet. The DoD let Admiral Gortney move onto his next assignment as commander of U.S. Northern Command/North American Aerospace Defense Command, and made Vice Admiral Nora Tyson acting commander of Fleet Forces Command until Davidson can assume command. Tyson, however was still a vice admiral while she was "acting" as commander of Fleet Forces Command. She was never allowed to pin on a fourth star while she was acting commander. Davidson assumed command of Fleet Forces Command on December 19, 2014, which was the same day he was also promoted to admiral. Vice Admiral Tyson reverted back to her role as deputy commander of Fleet Forces Command when he took over. Neovu79 (talk) 02:15, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Sources

Some sources I had in my inbox. Feel free to add any that might be useful.

  • Ball, Krystal; Thompson, Anne L. (October 2, 2014). "How the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse". NBC Universal. Retrieved December 27, 2014.
  • Bannon, Brad (October 20, 2014). "Time to Tackle the Disease, Not the President: Republicans should stop playing political football with the Ebola crisis". U.S. News & World Report. Retrieved December 27, 2014.
  • Berman, Russell (December 15, 2014). "Finally, a New Surgeon General". The Atlantic. Retrieved December 27, 2014.
  • Bierman, Noah; Meyers, Jessica (October 21, 2014). "Amid Ebola worry, nomination for surgeon general languishes". Boston Globe. Retrieved December 27, 2014.
  • Editorial board (December 28, 2014). "The Register's Editorial: Vote shows NRA's sway". Des Moines Register. Retrieved January 15, 2015.
  • McCarthy, Matt (December 28, 2014). "The 10 Most Important Medical Stories of 2014". The Slate Group. Retrieved January 15, 2015.
  • Pompi, Jennifer (December 15, 2014). "Senate confirms Vivek Murthy, gun control advocate, as surgeon general". Washington Times. Retrieved December 27, 2014.
  • Rogers, Alex (December 15, 2014). "Senate Confirms U.S. Surgeon General Despite Gun-Control Support". Time. Retrieved December 27, 2014.

--Lightbreather (talk) 21:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC) Accuracy of biography

The biography claims he has trained hundreds of residents and medical students, treated thousands of patients. Yet, he finished medical school in 2003 and residency in 2006. He was appointed in 2013. So a the most he had a decade to teach and treat. As a former Chief Resident I can attest that you do not get to teach hundreds of students or residents in a decade. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.124.124.83 (talk) 13:23, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Medals and honors

Neovu79: I don't think the ribbons are at all clear in the photograph. Please provide a source for your addition. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 21:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

@AleatoryPonderings: [Here] is an image from the same source in high res.Neovu79 (talk) 21:22, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
I guess that's ok, but something in text would really be better. Perhaps there is an official biography somewhere with a list of his awards. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 21:23, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
I have not seen too many Public Health Service bios that do, since that's usually something the U.S. Armed Forces lists, and not the other two noncombatant uniformed services. It's been my observation, that U.S. Public Health Service officer official bios tend to not list their awards unless they have once served in the armed forces, or have worked with the armed forces as part of their assignments. My assumption is it's to avoid being perceived as actually part of the armed forces. Neovu79 (talk) 21:51, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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