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I don't quite see the relevance of the Ewen or Taylor references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.25.45.185 (talk) 03:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Inclusion of contemporary examples of visual rhetoric?

With visuals being a popular medium to express sentiment online, would it be appropriate to add examples of how people use pictures to communicate on platforms like social media, instant messaging, etc? While I imagine it does not match the academic tone of the many examples within the article it is very relevant especially in this day and age with people using visuals in brand new ways. Ntsegaw (talk) 04:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources to check out

Hello wiki editors, I found some sources that may be of interest for a contemporary visual rhetoric section. Please let me know what you think.

Jenkins, Eric S. “The Modes of Visual Rhetoric: Circulating Memes as Expressions.” Quarterly Journal of Speech, vol. 100, no. 4, 2014, pp. 442–466.,doi:10.1080/00335630.2014.989258.

Du Preez, Amanda, and Elanie Lombard. “The Role of Memes in the Construction of Facebook Personae.” Communicatio: South African Journal for Communication Theory & Research, vol. 40, no. 3, 2014, pp. 253–270., doi:10.1080/02500167.2014.938671.

Martínez-Rolán, Xabier, and Teresa Piñeiro-Otero. “The Use of Memes in the Discourse of Political Parties at Twitter: Analysis of the 2015 State of the Nation Debate.”Communication & Society, vol. 29, no. 1, 2016, pp. 145–159., doi:10.15581/003.29.1.145-159.

Murray, Derek Conrad. “Notes to Self: the Visual Culture of Selfies in the Age of Social Media.” Consumption Markets & Culture, vol. 18, no. 6, Dec. 2015, pp. 490–516., doi:10.1080/10253866.2015.1052967.

Lumsden, Linda. “Striking Images: Visual Rhetoric and Social Identify in the Radical Press, 1903â1917.” Visual Communication Quarterly, vol. 17, no. 4, Oct. 2010, pp. 225–240., doi:10.1080/15551393.2010.515443.

Veum, Aslaug, and Linda Victoria Moland Undrum. “The Selfie as a Global Discourse.”Discourse & Society, vol. 29, no. 1, Jan. 20182017, pp. 86–103., doi:10.1177/0957926517725979.

Mortensen, Mette, et al. “The Iconic Image in a Digital Age.” Nordicom Review, vol. 38, 2017, pp. 71–86., doi:10.1515/nor-2017-0415. Ayc8110 (talk) 22:20, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of Possible Sources

Phillips, Barbara J., and Edward F. McQuarrie. Beyond Visual Metaphor: A New Typology of Visual Rhetoric in Advertising. Vol. 4, Sage Publishing, 2004.

Barthes, Roland. Rhetoric of the Image. Oxford University Press, 1998.

Veum, Aslaug, and Linda V. M. Undrum. The Selfie as a Global Discourse. Vol. 29, Sage Publishing, 2017.

Olson, Lester C, et al. Visual Rhetoric : A Reader in Communication and American Culture. Sage, 2008.

Iarocci, Louisa, editor. Visual Merchandising : The Image of Selling. Ashgate, 2013.

I'm planning to add more on the "Visual Rhetoric of Text" section by adding some material on how some poetry forms use words to create a picture and what effect this has on the poetry and reader. I am also planning to add a new section on the visual rhetoric of advertisements and movies. Each of these will have some content on what the advertisers how to convey and how it is received by the consumer. If anyone has any advice on what could be helpful or what sources wouldn't be helpful, please feel free to add on. VannaUMD (talk) 02:12, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Sources: Focus on Origin and Marketing

For those new to Visual Rhetoric, here is a great article to help become educated on the topic in general and in the specific context of advertisements (not peer reviewed or academic, but well-written and appropriately cited)

Barthes, R. (1977). Image – Music – Text. New York: Hill and Wang.
I intend to use this source to elaborate on the origin of the term "Visual Rhetoric" (who coined it first and what was the original meaning to help juxtapose how current scholars use the word).

McQuarrie, E., & Mick, D. (1999). Visual rhetoric in advertising: Text-interpretive, experimental, and reader-response analyses. Journal of Consumer Research, 26(1), 37-54.
This source will help show how comparisons between two objects have been used to more effectively advertise products.

Veum, Aslaug, and Linda Victoria Moland Undrum. “The Selfie as a Global Discourse.”Discourse & Society, vol. 29, no. 1, Jan. 20182017, pp. 86–103., doi:10.1177/0957926517725979.
This will be used to explore social media's impact on digital rhetoric both textually (slang) and visually

Jeong, S. (2008). Visual metaphor in advertising: Is the persuasive effect attributable to visual argumentation or metaphorical rhetoric?. Journal of Marketing Communications, 14(1), 59-73.

Campelo A, Aitken R, Gnoth J. Visual Rhetoric and Ethics in Marketing of Destinations. Journal Of Travel Research [serial online]. January 2011;50(1):3-14. Available from: Academic Search Complete, Ipswich, MA. Accessed February 17, 2018.
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Sources to consider

Oriana Gatta. “English 3135: Visual Rhetoric.” Composition Studies, vol. 41, no. 2, 2013, pp. 78–97. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/compstud.41.2.0078.

Hocks, Mary E. “Understanding Visual Rhetoric in Digital Writing Environments.” College Composition and Communication, vol. 54, no. 4, 2003, pp. 629–656. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/3594188.

Lucaites, John Louis, and Robert Hariman. “Visual Rhetoric, Photojournalism, and Democratic Public Culture.” Rhetoric Review, vol. 20, no. 1/2, 2001, pp. 37–42. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/466134.

Anderson, Charles M. “In Search of a Visual Rhetoric for Instructional Television.” AV Communication Review, vol. 20, no. 1, 1972, pp. 43–63. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/30217683.

Jacobson, Brian R. “Fantastic Functionality: Studio Architecture and the Visual Rhetoric of Early Hollywood.” Film History, vol. 26, no. 2, 2014, pp. 52–81. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/10.2979/filmhistory.26.2.52.

Bates, John A., and Michael Martin. “The Thematic Content of Graffiti as a Nonreactive Indicator of Male and Female Attitudes.” The Journal of Sex Research, vol. 16, no. 4, 1980, pp. 300–315. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/3812049.

Gonos, George, et al. “Anonymous Expression: A Structural View of Graffiti.” The Journal of American Folklore, vol. 89, no. 351, 1976, pp. 40–48. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/539545.

These sources offer a variety of information on visual rhetoric both explicitly and implicitly. There seem to be many disciplines which aim to unravel just what visual rhetoric is and so I have pulled out information from sources that address english, film, and graffiti.Ntsegaw (talk) 19:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review Ideas

Visual art section is almost negligible. Should either be removed, incorporated into another subsection, or grossly expanded on to make worthwhile.
Adding visuals would make sense, as the article focuses on visual rhetoric yet has no actual examples of it.
Subsections have very little flow or relevance to each other. Potentially rearrangements could be made to help one topic and idea flow more smoothly to the next. Nhuffman (talk) 21:33, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

→I agree. I expanded on the section a little bit, touching on how rhetorical devices/operations may be manipulated for visual purposes. It can really still be taken out, but I tried to make it clear that the field of visual art is completely separate. Emargarella (talk) 18:03, 28 February 2018 (UTC) →I made a section about "Application" because the Intro, History, and Areas of Focus were touching on similar, or sometimes the exact same, points. Under Semiotics, I made it exclusive to the discussion of semiotics and moved other information under that new "Application" subsection. Emargarella (talk) 18:04, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Graffiti as an example of contemporary visual rhetoric?

Instead of having a separate section dedicated to it, why not include that information under a larger subsection of contemporary visual rhetoric? Once there's enough information to fulfill that subsection, of course. Other contemporary examples may include popular company logos, marketing campaigns, and internet memes. Emargarella (talk) 18:12, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of "Application" Subsection

I moved information from other subsections under a new subsection in order to contribute to the cohesiveness of the page. Many of the subsections weren't really flowing, so I tried to extract relevant points from other sections. This was also an attempt to help readers understand not just what visual rhetoric is but how it is studied and applied. Emargarella (talk) 18:25, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I think there could be more to dive into how rhetoric is altogether and then break off talking about how that can become a form of visual rhetoric. HeathV (talk) 00:13, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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