Talk:Vinyl siding
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[edit]I see no problems only solutions....
"I've gone through and cleaned up the language in its description. And I've added information that's actually relevant to the body. But I haven't cleaned up the language that existed before, so it is still not totally neutral."
- I added a little more detail to the "environmental aspects" section, mostly to highlight some of the problems that may arise with vinyl siding that were not included. I also removed an extremely misleading statement in the first sentence of the section, which stated basically that vinyl siding causes less pollution because, unlike wood or similar sidings, it doesn't have to be treated or painted onsight. That observation is not only slightly ridiculous - it also contrasts with statements further down that pointed out the pollution caused by the manufacture of vinyl siding! Whether one or the other is worse is not the issue - it's not a valid "pro-vinyl" argument, and I found many links to instructions for painting old, faded vinyl siding....
- Also I added some information on the very real but under-reported dangers of vinyl siding; particularly its toxicity during fires. I included references and, as a certified firefighter, I have some hands-on knowledge and prior education dealing with this aspect of vinyl. If you disagree with me, please discuss.... itinerant_tuna (talk) 03:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I added some environmental aspects as well. The article is still not very well sourced. One link is broken, (Should we phase out PVC) and leads instead to a product advertisement. Please improve the references to this artyicle. References to industry sites should be treated with caution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.7.85 (talk) 00:23, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Citation on UV coating
[edit]A UV Coating was used by a few specific manufacturers for example Mastic Corp. Even though I am personally familiar with this product and have experienced and at one time seen it mentinoed in a specification sheet, I have not looked for an online reference or citation. I also have not researched proof if Mastic still does or any other manufactureer uses a UV coating of any type. I am under the presumption that Mastic still may use the process and that some manufacturers blend in their own proprietary UV "fighting" properties to the vinyl formula and may not have any spific coating. I may try and research this and edit this section in the near future. --Richman1 (talk) 18:57, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Dispute on Thickness of Vinyl sheetstock
[edit]On notice of the dispute and other comment on the Thickness as stated:
Dispute measure of thickness. 2 mils is human hair thickness. Should be in inches for usa eg 0.040 builder grade vinyl.
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CallMeChaz
16:43, 7 June 2012 (diff | hist) . . (-132) . . Vinyl siding (→Specs and product variables: Conversion of thousands of inch to mils was wrong. "Point 35 mils" is .00035 inches!! Industry std for CertainTeed, for example, uses decimal inches anyways.)
I will have to say, I believe that my initial placement of a decimal in from of the measurement ie: .35 or .52, in reference to mil may be wrong. However, without commenting on how Certainteed measures the thickness of their product or any other specific manufacturer for that matter, some did use mils as a measurment as do many other plastics or vinyl manufacturers such as vinyl sheet, plastic rold and painters drop cloths as weel as garbage bag industry. I remember may vinyl siding manufacturers stating in thier specs, the measurement in terms of "mil". I may call suppliers and see if I can get current spec sheets or data on this or look up some information.
Comments on 'environmental aspects' section
[edit]In the 'Environmental aspects' section the paragraph that begins 'The National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) recommends' contains the text 'Though vinyl siding does actually require caulk to seal seams where the siding J (border trim that the sliding slides into) meets windows and doors.'. Is not supported by cited reference since the 'recommends' ≠ 'actually require'.
If this statement is read to mean that the J is caulked to the window/door this is incorrect. Any caulking or flashing must be done prior to installing the vinyl. [1]
Reference 8 is broken, but a search for "no additional finish resources to complete application on site" yields Appendix C of 'The Complete Idiot's Guide to Green Building and Remodeling' [2] Which is taken from '2012 ICC 700 National Green Building Standard' which is a NAHB builders book available for purchase. [3]
--2602:304:B182:4B40:62A4:4CFF:FEEC:2FB2 (talk) 00:17, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
References
- ^ http://www.vinylsiding.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/I1_-_Vinyl_Siding_Installation_Manual_English2.pdf
- ^ The Complete Idiot's Guide to Green Building and Remodeling John Barrows Lisa Iannucci - January 6, 2009 Penguin - Publisher
- ^ https://builderbooks.com/catalog/product/view/id/241/s/2012-icc-700-national-green-building-standard/category/17/
Environmental aspects etc...
[edit]I've never even seen this stuff ( living in Britain ) so can't comment myself, but this section deals almost entirely with its fire protection aspect --- which is safety, not environment --- and the danger to workers in the factories making vinyl: shouldn't the environmental issues be, resources extracted; manufacturing pollution ( if any ); and ultimate disposal ?
If it is such a major component on the American continent, that is a massive amount of stuff to be dumped or safely recycled. Claverhouse (talk) 18:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)