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References

10/17/07 The Cork Board Is Vinography truly king in terms of subscribers? *Blog-Not really a reliable source.

09/09/07 The New York Times Snobless Sipping Where a Glassful Is Just a Glassful **Possibly useful More of a semi-interview with the founder of the blog on his opinion of wine bars. Not really about the blog itself only a brief single mention.

08/16/07 Santa Barbara Independent The Web's Gift To Wine Lovers: The Best Wine Blogs in Cyberspace *Useful a paragraph mention by a reliable source. Good source for what the blog covers.

05/09/07 Sacramento Bee From TV Critic to Wine Guy: Hitting the Road and Writing a Book *Not really useful only a single one line mention in an article not even about the subject of wine blogs

12/03/06 U.S. News and World Report Uncork the Lowest Prices *Not really useful only a single one line mention as an afterthought

08/29/06 The Independent (UK) My Round: A Final Toast to the World's Best Wine Blogs *Slightly useful I had more hopes for this one since the article is about wine blogs. That takes the one line mention above being "trivial" and could possible be used in the article as a line about being mentioned a useful blog resource on San Francisco area wine by the Independent.

July 2006 Men's Health Magazine The High Life at Low Cost *Not really useful One line passing mention

May 2006 Fast Company Magazine The Best Blogs: Off the Vine, Now Online *Useful A good paragraph write up in an article about wine blogs

04/6/06 San Francisco Chronicle Diners and Restaurateurs Alike are Confounded by Corkage Fees *Not really useful The focus is more on the founder of the blog and even that is just asking his opinion on corkage.

03/02/06 San Francisco Chronicle Eureka! Ten Good Zinfandels and Syrahs for $10 or Less *Not really useful and most likely the wrong link. This is a follow up article to the Corkage article above and again its a brief mention of the founder's view on corkage with an even briefer mention of the blog in passing.

02/22/06 Los Angeles Times Swirl, Sniff, Sip, Search and Blog*Useful An article about wine blogs with a substantial mention of Vinography

01/25/06 San Francisco Chronicle Corkage Debate Heats Up*Not really useful Duplicate link of note above about the Corkage thing.

01/18/06 San Francisco Chronicle Cetrella Owner to Bring Chowder House to Half Moon Bay*Not really useful Again a brief one line mention of the founder's opinion on something with a mention of vinography in passing. Nothing of substance written about the blog itself.

October 2005 Food & Wine Seven Best Wine Blogs*Useful Article about wine blogs with a substantial mention about Vinography

03/09/05 San Francisco Chronicle Going Blog Wild: Web Logs Feed Appetites for Food Information and Inspiration*Useful Article about wine blogs with a substantial mention about Vinography

Comments on the above

It is a little misleading to list these as "references" since they aren't referencing anything in the body of the article. I'm not advocating the complete removal of these links since they are pertinent to establishing the notability of the wine blog by documenting non-trivial, third party write ups. What needs to be done is to turn this from being a spam list to actually true references that is incorporated into the body of the article. Some of the links do need to go, like the ones written on blogs which really don't hold much snuff with our reliable source policies. Things like the New York Times and San Fran Chronicle do pass as long as the mention of Vinography is not a trivial one or two line mention in passing. I'm going to look at some of these links in more detail and help incorporate some of them into the article. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 19:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

UpdateI incorporated several of the useful links into the blog and toned down some slight POV that was there. The only useful link that I haven't found a home for is the last one above-the San Fran chronicle "Going blog wild". It duplicates the info of some of the other links with the only thing really being unique is the mention that the blog is not for profit. At the moment I can't think of the most seamless way to integrate that tidbit into the article. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I also did a web search to try and find some more non-trivial sources but could come up with anything so far. But it still worth looking for. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 21:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the above

Thanks for taking the time to so throughly go through those links and describe the rationale for each. I have a better understanding now of your goals for the article, which I agree with. Gnocchiandwine (talk) 23:46, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]