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MOS:CONTEXTBIO supports only South Korean as that is where he lived since he was a child, has citizenship, and where all notable activities occurred. Birth in US is irrelevant to his notability so doesn't get noted in lead. Jus soli citizenship in US is not important to his notability. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:24, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He's still a dual national though. MOS:CONTEXTBIO doesn't say to omit someone's nationality just because there is another one that is more relevant to their career. He's in a group where he is known as one of the two English speakers, I don't think we can decide that him being American is not notable. See Rosé (singer) and Huh Yun-jin for others. orangesclub🍊05:47, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe if he was born there and moved over when he was a baby, but he still travels on an American passport and identifies with the nationality. orangesclub🍊05:50, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article says he was born in US and moved to South Korea when he was five. His father was Korean. He went to school there, started his career there, resides and is based there. He's done nothing notable in the US, all notable activities are in South Korea. CONTEXTBIO is more concerned with where notable activities occurred and where a person permanently resides than what their citizenship is. His American citizenship is not important to his career and at most is a convenience he has available to him for travel. Saying he is an American rapper, singer and songwriter is not appropriate and is giving undue importance to what is basically an accident of birth. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:24, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand where you're coming from, but it's not an accident of birth to be born in the country where your mother is from, and to then maintain that citizenship through your life. Thoughts on Mark (rapper), Felix (rapper), Eric Nam? Are they free to be their passport countries as long as they don't have their Korean passports too? He is known as a Korean-American idol, one who takes inspiration from American pop punk music and translates for his bandmates who don't speak English. I'll be sentimental here perhaps but to tell a mixed person that one half of their heritage is not notable because they haven't worked there is demeaning, and fails to see who he is beyond simply being a K-pop idol. orangesclub🍊06:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notable activities are those editors of this article chose to mention in the article. None of them occurred in the US. The others should be labelled Korean singers as well if they are citizens of Korea, based there and have all there notable activities in Korea. Not talking about his heritage at all as that isn't really relevant here. The "and" construct is generally for people who had a notable career in one country before moving and continuing in another the examples at MOS:CONTEXTBIO are illustrative. As for traveling on a US passport, the US is very picky about its citizens not using it when arriving in US so it is necessary to have but otherwise doesn't mean much. Anyway this is mostly your article, all I am doing is giving input for your consideration and I won't change what you decide to do. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If anything it's the inclusion of "South Korean" in the lead that is debatable, not "American".I'm not going to make any changes because we probably don't have any reliable sources to back it up, but given that the subject has been seen consistently seen travelling on only a US passport, it's not a far jump to assume that he's relinquished his South Korean citizenship to avoid the military enlistment requirement as is stated at South Korean nationality law#Acquisition and loss.Obviously assumptions aren't sources and we can't change the article on assumptions, so as far as whether or not he actually gave up his ROK citizenship remains to be seen... no true confirmation will come unless a reliable source explicitly states that he doesn't have to enlist because he's American, or his 30th birthday comes and goes without any mention of enlistment. RachelTensions (talk) 22:27, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
