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Kentucky color needs to be changed

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There is a Senate race in Kentucky in 2016 (as Republican Rand Paul is up for re-election), but the Senate map shows Kentucky as gray, not red. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peach freak (talk • contribs) 23:24, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please fix image

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Could someone please fix the image File:2016_US_Senate_election_seats.png that the article is using. The Eastern Shore of Virginia is colored Blue, it should be Gray like the rest of the state.Naraht (talk) 20:29, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Color for Oklahoma needs to be changed

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The color for Oklahoma needs to be changed to reflect the fact that Tom Coburn is retiring.

--184.6.222.14 (talk) 02:15, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Senate Map?

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There seem to be two main errors on the senate map:

1) Map shows there is no race in Kentucky but there is with Republican incumbent Rand Paul running

2) The eastern shore area of Virginia is coloured blue, as if it were part of the state of Maryland yet it is not and as such should be colored grey as there is no race in Virginia in '16 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guyb123321 (talk • contribs)

Kentucky was fixed by changing map in [1]. The Virginia-Maryland border looks right to me in both map versions File:2016 Senate election map.svg (where Kentucky was wrong) and File:2016 US Senate Election seats.png. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:12, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The map still shows "undetermined incumbents" for HI, OK and SC. With the special elections having taken place it's now clear that those senators will be Schatz(D-HI), Lankford (R-OK) and Scott (R-SC). Someone should thus update the colors for those three states. -- fdewaele, 11 November 2014, 10:17 CET.

David Vitter

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David Vitter is running for Governor of Louisiana in 2015. Can he run for governor and senator at the same time?2601:3:1000:593:8994:E37A:2B30:4BD8 (talk) 18:00, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He shouldn't have to run for both offices at the same time. On or shortly after election day in 2015, he will know if he will be Governor. If he is elected Governor, he will appoint his own replacement, as is the Governor's power in Louisiana in the event of a U.S. Senate seat vacancy. If he is not elected Governor, he has a full year to campaign for re-election to the Senate in 2016 if he so chooses.[1]

References

  1. ^ "David Vitter to run for Louisiana governor in 2015 Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/david-vitter-louisiana-governor-2015-102426.html#ixzz3IHApbfVx". POLITICO. {{cite web}}: External link in |title= (help)

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2016 Ratings now available

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Charlie Cook has published his first 2016 Senate rankings here: http://cookpolitical.com/senate/charts/race-ratings Larry Sabato has done the same: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2016-senate/

I would imagine that we can replace the "Seats that are predicted to be competitive" section with an actual competitive seat section found in previous years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.56.245.18 (talk) 18:39, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Map errors

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California should be colored light blue because Barbara Boxer is retiring, and Hawaii, Oklahoma, and South Carolina are still black even though the new senators from all three states have now been sworn in. --Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 16:57, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Map needs to be changed: Colors for Indiana, Maryland

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As of 3/27/15, Dan Coats, Republican of IN has announced his retirement (3/24/15), as well as Barbara Mikulski, Democrat of MD (3/2/15) and Harry Reid, Democrat of NV (3/27/15). I don't know how to change the map colors, but someone ought to do it. - Dan Epstein — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.66.254 (talk) 14:11, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Party Nominations in California

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California enacted blanket primaries several years ago for most elections, including Senate races, so party nominations are effectively abolished. I removed references to candidates seeking the Democratic or Republican nomination. If the wording I left isn't perfect, please update it. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 01:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly double counting election ratings: RollCall.com and Rothenburg & Gonzales Report

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If you retrieve the RollCall.com 2016 Election Race Ratings[1], the page says: "The Rothenberg & Gonzales Political Report/Roll Call Race Ratings for House, Senate and gubernatorial contests." The results line up exactly the Rothenburg & Gonzales Political Report Senate Ratings[2], so we probably should remove one or the other column. 96.231.151.159 (talk) 05:44, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You're correct. I removed the duplicate ratings.Orser67 (talk) 22:38, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Roll Call Election Race Ratings". Roll Call.
  2. ^ "The Rothenburg & Gonzalez Report Senate Ratings".

Bernie Sanders

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I have heard he will remain a Democrat. He became one when he decided to run for president. Should he be listed as one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.247.34.222 (talk) 14:15, March 11, 2016

We have no reason to believe he won't run for reelection to the Senate as an independent (assuming he isn't POTUS). – Muboshgu (talk) 19:48, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
He said he would run as a Democrat in future elections in this link. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f7eec73c6c714af7a25b6d60d4449599/sanders-declares-democrat-new-hampshire-primaryfuture 96.247.34.222 (talk) 20:12, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Competitive 2016 Senate seats.png

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Could this image be updated to include Arizona? Surely if North Carolina is competitive, so is Arizona. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:54, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Primary dates

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Primary dates are not significant and have not been used in previous Senate election pages. Also - not all races will have primaries because of uncontested party elections or because of other processes for nominations. Plus, many have already passed which makes them unneeded in the interim. I am removing the primary dates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:C5C6:4800:E0A1:4CF6:BE81:8652 (talk) 02:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

About 2/3 of the states still have primaries, it is useful information to know, and the dates fit comfortably within the table. I also plan on removing the dates after the final (non-Louisiana) primary. Orser67 (talk) 02:43, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It would be better to put them below outside of the table. That is where they have been traditionally and you are not accounting for the other processes, runoffs, etc. 2604:2000:C5C6:4800:E0A1:4CF6:BE81:8652 (talk) 02:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If run-offs occur, they can be included in the table. I can't think of any other processes that would need to be included. Orser67 (talk) 03:07, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a special character that notes what states may have primary run-offs. Orser67 (talk) 03:21, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's not sufficient - not all rules are 50% of the vote and you're not taking into account states like Colorado or Utah which utilize conventions. It's best to not put this in the box - but below. Or create a whole new list elsewhere that goes more in-depth. Bringing in others to weigh in. 2604:2000:C5C6:4800:E0A1:4CF6:BE81:8652 (talk) 02:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea, but please keep in mind the rules of wp:canvas. I have noted the one remaining state has a run-off req different from 50%. Orser67 (talk) 04:40, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also, currently, both Utah and Colorado use both primaries and conventions. In Utah, the law requires alternate means for appearing on the primary ballot aside from winning the convention. In Colorado, the convention merely whittles down the field of candidates. These relatively minor details (in the context of an article covering the entire 2016 Senate elections) don't seem to require a mention in the table (althouh ideally they would be mentioned in individual state sections). Orser67 (talk) 05:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comment: primary dates in summary table

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The consensus is that primary dates should be included in the 2016 Senate elections summary table. Editors noted that since not all states had primaries or had runoffs or different ways of nominating candidates, any confusion could be cleared up with more information or explanation. Cunard (talk) 22:33, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

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Should primary dates be included in the table 2016 Senate elections summary table? Orser67 (talk) 18:06, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I argue that it is useful information that helps readers understand when nominees will be chosen, and fits comfortably within the table. An IP editor has continually deleted this information, arguing that several of the states have already held primaries and the table fails to take into account other processes. Orser67 (talk) 18:07, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds quite relevant to me, especially since in many states the most important race. Reywas92Talk 05:46, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Alaska Senate Race -- Democratic -- eligibility

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I am, as someone noted from my IP address, Richard Grayson, and I edited the page to include that I have filed as the Democratic candidate for the Senate from Alaska. I see someone has added that I would be ineligible to hold the seat if elected, as I do not live in Alaska. As the Constitution, Article I, Section 3, "No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen." As three Circuit Courts of Appeals have ruled, you cannot bar anyone from the ballot based on their residence at time of filing since no one can predict where someone will be living at the time "when elected." (Also note: "Inhabitant" is not the same as "resident" or "citizen" of the state. I was inhabiting Wyoming on Election Day 2014, when I was running for the U.S. House there, and I fully expect, if in the unlikely event that I do become the Democratic nominee for Senate in Alaska, to move to Alaska at least long enough to be inhabiting the state on Election Day.

I'm not going to make the change myself -- or any other changes -- but I leave it up to fair-minded editors to consider my point and whether the "ineligible" language should be removed.

The court rulings I mentioned: Campbell v. Davidson, 233 F.3d 1229, 1235 (10th Cir.2000) Schaefer v. Townsend, 215 F.3d 1031, 1039 (9th Cir.2000) Texas Democratic Party v. Benkiser, 459 F.3d 582 (5th Cir. 2006)

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.24.223.44 (talk) 11:58, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the reference to being ineligible. This article is a summary of all of the Senate races in 2016, and there's no reason to include so much information about one specific candidate in one race. Orser67 (talk) 00:29, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Not a single Republican got enough votes to make it to the general election"

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Someone added this to the California section. I get that it's trying to make clear to the reader that no Republicans performed well enough to advance to the general election, but the wording is confusing, because it makes it sound like there's a vote threshold, whereas in reality the top two candidates (and only them) advance to the general election.

Maybe we need a better (but still brief) way of explaining how the California primary system works. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 21:37, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Two suggestions for discussion for the article

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  1. In the Latest predictions of competitive seats section, include at the end the seats which are considered safe by all predictions with the party they are considered safe with.
  2. In the Race Summary section, somehow indicate in each row whether the primary has already taken place.

Naraht (talk) 15:47, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For the race summary section, we could maybe use a shading like this to indicate whether the primary has taken place

Hawaii Brian Schatz Democratic 2012 (Appointed)
2014 (Special) 		Incumbent running. Brian Schatz (Democratic)[1]
John Carroll (Republican)[1]
Makani Christensen (Democratic)[1]
Karla Gottschalk (Republican)[1]
Tutz Honeychurch (Democratic)[1]
Eddie Pirkowski (Republican)[1]
Arturo Reyes (Democratic)[1]
John P. Roco (Democratic)[1]
Miles Shiratori (Democratic)[1]
  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i Cite error: The named reference RCRG was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

Orser67 (talk) 17:42, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So last column in grey or not based on whether the primary has happened. Sounds good, just not sure whether grey or white should be used for before or after...Naraht (talk) 18:35, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I added the shading to places where primaries have yet to take place, since I figure that takes less work for all editors involved. Orser67 (talk) 15:35, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Change in composition section

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The "After the elections" table currently has D34 as the last Democrat, followed by the seats up for election all listed as "TBD". Because the winner in California will be one of two Democrats, shouldn't the first seat up for election after D34 be D35, perhaps with an explanatory note? -Rrius (talk) 18:10, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest removing NYT & 538

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Don't get me wrong these are great sources, but they are updated by the hour so they date very quickly. We already have enough estimate sources so my opinion is to remove these two. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:24, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As someone who watches the article but doesn't edit it, I agree. I'd rather just see the major changes, not these arbitrary percentage changes, which will be changing up until next Tuesday. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They have it in 2014 too. I am the person who put them up. Ueutyi (talk) 23:20, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Ueutyi: Thank you for doing so, but unless you are prepared to update the table every 3 hours or so the info is dated. Just because the content is in article x, doesn't mean it is a good idea or one not likely to be challenged. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:24, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I update them once to twice daily. @Knowledgekid87:. Thanks for the concern I will keep it up until the E-day. Ueutyi (talk) 19:50, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Results map

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Why don't we have a map yet showing the results of the Senate elections? --1990'sguy (talk) 16:51, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]


The results map needs to be updated to reflect the outcome of the Alabama special election... --HighFlyingFish (talk) 02:58, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article title

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Seeing as the 2017 special election has its own page, I do not see the reasoning of the current article titleBarryob (Contribs) (Talk) 23:54, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The 2016 elections where standard ones, it does not seem logical to group special elections into this article, was there some sort of discussion around this proposed changeBarryob (Contribs) (Talk) 02:47, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's just added on, typically. In the first 120 years, Senate elections by state legislatures were often in the months leading up to the new Congress in March of the odd year, so it wasn't unusual to have regularly-scheduled general elections in January 1849 or February 1903. Therefore, those articles were written with a two-year span. Since direct senate popular elections began, general elections have been contemporary with the House elections in November of the previous even year, and in those years the special elections have nonetheless been added on to the general election article. That has made some articles even-only and some articles even+odd. It's just the nature of it.—GoldRingChip 12:09, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely agree that the title change should be reverted, as the article should only be covering elections that took place on Election Day, 2016, while others should get their own pages (but could be mentioned here). Hopefully we can get more discussion and eventually a vote. Dayshade (talk) 20:37, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Would it also cover elections on other days in 2016? Only general elections on Election Day or also special elections held the same day? What about December general elections in Louisiana that has a jungle primary in November? You see, there are so many hairs that can be split here, so instead of cutting all of them out, we've decided to include them all but explain their inclusions when necessary. I hope that helps.—GoldRingChip 22:02, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Primaries associated with Election Day (i.e. elections with a primary on or before that day) could be covered, which can be a clear criterion to use. Dayshade (talk) 12:46, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 January 2018

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United States Senate elections, 2016 and 2017 → United States Senate elections, 2016 – The 2016 election was a normal election held under the Seventeenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, as per other articles on US Senate elections the inclusion of the United States Senate special election in Alabama, 2017 is inappropriate as this was special election. It is not standard practice to group special/by elections into previous election articles. . support as nom Barryob (Contribs) (Talk) 18:57, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • For many reasons, I strongly disagree. This article is about a collection of elections that happened at the same time; except that in many years those elections actually don't happen at the same time. There are elections in other years that do not conform this proposed rationale. For example, in 2013 there were two special elections that are well and properly included in United States Senate elections, 2012 and 2013. In 2014, there were THREE special elections held in November 2014 that are properly included in United States Senate elections, 2014. I could go on and on and on with these examples. What about other Senate election articles that don't conform to your standard… would you not include special elections held in an election year or general elections that are held on a different date, such as Louisiana December elections or Maine's September elections? There's a standard practice in these U.S. Senate election articles to include all elections in a two-year period and group them into one of three sections: 1. Special elections during the preceding Congress; 2. Elections leading to the next Congress; and 3. Special elections during the next Congress. This standard actually works for elections both under 17th amendment and before that. This standard actually works for elections both under the 20th amendmendment (January 3 commencement instead of March 4) and before that. This standard actually works for elections in the 18th century and the 21st century. It's complete, simple, and successful. And I suggest we maintain it by not renaming/moving this article. Thanks. —GoldRingChip 19:11, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There was not a practice of grouping the special elections that are not help on the same day until you made the relevant changes recently. For example the United States House of Representatives elections, 2016 does not include the 2017 special elections. All other election articles are the same, yes there may situations where the special elections are help on Election Day which can be included in the article with relevant comment, with regards to the situations with California and Louisiana their inclusion is warranted due to the fact an election still take place on election day, either the first or final stages of the jungle primary Barryob (Contribs) (Talk) 19:25, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Are the "final stages of the jungle primary" actually different from a "primary"? What are the "final stages"? —GoldRingChip 20:49, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
At least for this article, I support Barryob's position. I find it very strange to include special elections taking place in 2017 with elections taking place in 2016. I would move odd-year special elections to e.g. United States elections, 2017, with brief coverage given in United States Senate elections, 2018 to explain the discrepancy from the last regular elections. 2018 special elections could have their own section in the 2018 article, as as seen in this article: United States House of Representatives elections, 2016#Special elections. I would make a distinction between pre- and post-17th Amendment elections, so for example United States Senate elections, 1912 and 1913 could remain because often legislatures didn't elect Senators until odd years. The Louisiana jungle primary does not present an issue because it is still held the same year as the other elections. Orser67 (talk) 23:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Close races

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Should "Close Races" be limited to 10% margin? Should there be subheading distinctions between 1%, 5%, 10%, etc? Should they be listed at all, or are they repetitive here? Let's discuss! —GoldRingChip 03:02, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yes it should. Most major news outlets and other american election wikipedia articals classify over 10% as "safe" 5-10% as "likley" 1-5% as "lean" and 1% or less as tilt. At the least they should by color coded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackForWiki06 (talk • contribs) 03:08, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • You also mentioned in the change log that color coding some how violated color-blind wikipedia rules. 1. I could not find these rules anywhere. 2. I used the web browser extention Colorblinding and you colud tell the difference between red and blue with all types of colorblindness. 3. If color coding close races isn't okay, then we should remove all color coding in all american election artical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackForWiki06 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • If it's Red, that doesn't mean "Republican" it just means "Red." I'm sorry I didn't say it that way. I think we can make this work. —GoldRingChip 20:08, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thats just not true. In the infobox, the rest of the artical, and all other american election articals the Democratic party is Blue and the Republican party is Red JackForWiki06 (talk) 23:19, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Explanations are needed, and can't be assumed, so we add party names with the colors. Arbitrary cut-offs don't help the readers. Internal links are preferred. —GoldRingChip 23:11, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
          • It says at the bottom "Red denotes states won by Republicans. Blue denotes states won by Democrats." These cutoffs aren't arbitrary, as we have already discussed. I also added internal links, so if you clicked on "Colorado, 5.66%" for example, it would bring you to the artical "2016 United States Senate election in Colorado" JackForWiki06 (talk) 21:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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