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Review: January 3, 2023. (Reviewed version).

A fact from United Nations General Assembly Building appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 September 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that according to one account, planners put a dome above the United Nations General Assembly Building (interior pictured) so the UN headquarters could be funded more quickly?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:16, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Interior of the United Nations General Assembly Hall

... that the United Nations General Assembly Hall contains Scrambled Eggs and Bugs Bunny? Source: "Mural, East Wall (Scrambled Eggs)". United Nations Gifts. December 31, 1952.
- ALT1: ... that three years after The New York Times said the UN General Assembly Hall would have "a considerable amount of waste space" for some time, UN officials considered expanding the hall? Source: Rosenthal, A. M. (October 10, 1954). "Plans for New U.N. Members Run Into Same Old Snags; Assembly Will Consider Case of the 'Outs' But Prospect for Admission Is Bleak". The New York Times, James, Michael (October 3, 1957). "Home of the U.N. Bulges at Seams; 82 Delegations Tax Facilities in East River Buildings-- Alterations Planned". The New York Times.
- ALT2: ... that the UN General Assembly Hall had so little space in 1962, some delegates sat in seating areas meant for journalists? Source: O'Kane, Lawrence (November 18, 1962). "U.N. Cry Goes Up for Elbowroom; Rapid Rise in Membership Is Taxing Facilities Growth Exceeded Expectation". The New York Times.
- ALT3: ... that the shape of the United Nations General Assembly Building was compared to a tarpaulin because of its curved roof and walls? Source: "Art: The Big Tent". Time. May 29, 1950
- ALT4: ... that according to one account, planners put a dome above the United Nations General Assembly Building so the UN headquarters could be funded more quickly? Source: MacFarquhar, Neil (November 22, 2008). "Renovating the U.N., With Hints of Green". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Taxation in ancient Rome
- Comment: QPQ pending, more hooks later

Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 20:54, 5 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Support Andre🚐 21:05, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrevan: Did you intend to review this nomination? If not, I can pick it up. Adog (Talk・Cont) 02:04, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops sorry, go for it Adog. I was just offering support. Andre🚐 02:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrevan: All good :). I wanted to check since I am what the U.S. Department of State would call an "Model UN nerd". Also this nominator looks familiar... Adog (Talk・Cont) 02:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing this is probably outside my comfort zone, but I'd like to voice my support for ALT2 and ALT0 in that order. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:44, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Currently in middle of review, will post tonight. Giving some time for author to post some additional ALTs if he wishes. Adog (Talk・Cont) 17:37, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Wow, wow, wow. How did the UNGA building not have a stand-alone article to this point? I got to read through most facts I can remember from being at the UN, even learning the sculpture's name I have as my screen saver. If you do get to visit the UN, please do a tour if possible. Long enough, it is new enough. There is plenty in the way of sources, AGF offline sources I cannot access. The article is neutral in tone, given valid acclaim and criticism where needed. The article is free from copyright, plagiarism, or close paraphrasing with Earwig picking up only minor conventions; for instance, paraphrases are the UN's general name conventions. All hooks are cited properly with interesting facts and characteristics. I do like ALT 0, 2, and 4 the most, with the latter being the most hook-y. Though, if needed or for fun, more ALTs could be suggested. My favorite fun-fact non-hook is how the UN members are arranged in the UNGA. Image is freely licensed, is used within the article, and can be clearly interpreted at the pixel count. QPQ needs to be done.

All appears ok with minor concerns regarding sentence structure and fact checks in my first run-through. For instance, in the "Site" section reading from "In exchange...", I am unsure if the UN acknowledges US law in its exchange for public services; instead, regarding Article III, section 7 b's provision stating "except as otherwise provided in this agreement or in the General Convention" [5]. Another thing I noticed was proper naming, as with the "Fuller Construction Company" when the source states "Fuller Company" absent of construction [167].

Policy-wise, there is a couple MOS:DUPLINK, with "Foucault pendulum" in "Lobbies," "Le Corbusier" and "Oscar Niemeyer" in "Planning," and "Harry S. Truman" and "United States Congress" in "Construction" as examples. Overall, very well done! Adog (Talk・Cont) 13:44, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Adog: Thank you very much for the review. I was similarly surprised that there wasn't an article on this topic - there was not a lot of info about this building even in the Headquarters of the United Nations article. Coincidentally, I was also part of a Model UN club in high school some years back, and I actually did visit the UN headquarters a few times. It's so close to my school that we could actually take the bus there. One time when we attended an international Model UN conference at the Hyatt Grand Central New York, the opening and closing ceremonies were at the UNGA Building. I got a pretty good look inside the hall, so there's that

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Regarding policy issues, I changed the two things you mentioned (proper names and the bit about the UN following US law) and removed the duplicate links. I have also added a QPQ now. If you would like me to propose additional hooks, I can come up with a few over the next day or so. Epicgenius (talk) 17:37, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: Off-topic, that is awesome. NYC is the place to be for (N)MUN, with experiences to be had with students from around the world. On-topic. The article looks good, I am sure the GA nomination will go well. I do not see information amiss. QPQ done. In my opinion, I do favor ALT 0 more now since I intuitively clicked on it first; it makes you think for a second (even if you do know its the side murals). Up to you if you wish to write additional ALTs or favor a different ALT. Otherwise, I can't wait to see this on the front page. Adog (Talk・Cont) 23:42, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]