Talk:United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009

Verka Serduchka

Verka Serduchka will not be able to participate in the UK contest will he? I thought you had to be british to represent. Lee 15 October 2008, 18:32 (UTC)

No, because he resides outside the European Workers Union. - Diggiloo (talk) 00:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Description of the heat

I don't see why we cannot have the description of the event. What they wore, order they performed, etc. A user has been bold and deleted half the article without consensus from editors and it seems that his reasoning is off since wp:plot deals with books, not an event; there is no plot in a contest. I think the article is more complete with the information. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 18:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

• The Heat 1 already features the names of the singer, and song, and if they qualified. Whether or not it is strictly relevant to the show that the programme featured a video clip of them performing at the 02 arena, or the duplicating the information regarding the original artists, is a questionable concept. We are not supposed to be the first source for information, which this section surely is. doktorb _words^deeds 18:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Well, if Ireland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 has information on what the act is like and what each participant is wearing, etc. then why hasn't that article been pulled to shreads? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; it's supposed to showcase all the information it can; which also means this article should have the long explanation of the acts that you deleted. -Diggiloo (talk) 18:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for letting me know about that article, another one which may need to be pruned back. Being an encyclopedia does not mean it is a wastedump of all kinds of everything doktorb _words^deeds 21:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

• Well I suggest making your thoughts clear on the GA reassessment page then, given that comments over there are actually saying the article might not be detailed enough. Camaron | Chris (talk) 22:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

• My main problem was the strange mix of tense in this section. I think the majority should be kept with comments such as the audience were impressed for example being removed. 安東尼 TALK ^圣诞快乐 20:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

• The current section is already a cut down of the original description of many paragraphs which although well written, was a little excessive on what was needed, sourced key points. I don't see any strong need for further cut backs. The current version is quite well sourced and reasonably encyclopaedic as far as I can see, and well integrated into the article. Camaron | Chris (talk) 21:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

• First of all Doktor, we are still waiting for your ESCToday source from a month ago listing the final participants, especially since it came out today...interesting. Concerning this topic, the Ireland page is a GA, and went through a review process to get there. You cannot come here pushing your ways as if in the name of consensus, as consensus currently seems to be to include all relevant information about the final. Whether you like it or not, there were video clips, you cannot deny that that happened, it was part of the final. Now sure, it shouldn't be written like a review with things like "best act of the night" etc, but a summary of the event is definitely warranted. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 21:53, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Sourcing

Please can sourcing be done properly. I have noticed in the past few weens in this article that many people have been sourcing pieces of text with YouTube videos, and there have also been cases where people have not been sourcing in the correct way, but instead just putting '<ref>LINK HERE</ref>' without any other information. Sources need to be done in this way;

<ref>{{cite web|url=LINK HERE|title=TITLE HERE|last=LAST NAME OF WRITER HERE|first=FIRST NAME OF WRITER HERE|publisher=''PUBLISHER NAME HERE''|date=DATE ARTICLE WRITTEN (YYYY-MM-DD)|accessdate=DATE SOURCE ADDED TO ARTICLE (YYYY-MM-DD)}}</ref>

-Diggiloo (talk) 17:03, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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