Talk:United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1998

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 13:32, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

First review from me of a UK Eurovision article, but far from my first review of an article on the Eurovision subject! --K. Peake 13:32, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Pipe The Great British Song Contest 1998 to UK national selection for the Eurovision Song Contest
• "the host broadcaster, and" → "the host broadcaster and" per British English
• Pipe British Broadcasting Corporation to BBC
• "after winning the competition" → "after the nation winning the competition"
• "semi-final to advance to" → "semi-final advancing to"
• "to represent the nation in the contest" → "to represent the UK in the Eurovision Song Contest"
• "Imaani performed sixteenth" → "Imaani performed 16th" per MOS:NUM
• "the United Kingdom finished in" → "the UK finished in"
• "the nation's fifteenth" → "the nation's 15th"

Background

• "forty times since" → "40 times since" per MOS:NUM
• "the United Kingdom had won" → "the UK had won"
• "on fourteen occasions," → "on 14 occasions,"
• Pipe rules to Rules of the Eurovision Song Contest
• "and contest hosts the United Kingdom" → "and contest hosts, the UK"
• "and the BBC were" → "with the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) being" with the pipe
• "through a national final," → "through a national final entitled"

Before Eurovision

The Great British Song Contest 1998

• Img looks good, but pipe Great British Song Contest to UK national selection for the Eurovision Song Contest on the text
• "and followed the same format" → "following the same format"
• "following a public submission" → "after a public submission"
• "the United Kingdom at Eurovision." → "the UK at Eurovision."
• "the competition, and following" → "the competition and following" per British English
• "from these songs the eight" → "from these songs, the eight"

Semi-final

• Mention they could vote for their favourites from 9-10am per the source
• "the broadcast, and the qualifying songs" → "the broadcast; the qualifying songs"
• Pipe Alberta to Alberta (singer)

Final

• "over four weeks:" → "over a period of four weeks:"
• Pipe Alberta to Alberta (singer)
• The Collective → the Collective, per MOS:THEMUSIC
• Pipe promotional CD to Promotional recording
• "and the four finalists and" → "while the four finalists and"
• "and presented by Terry Wogan." → "and presented by Wogan."
• Pipe behind-the-scenes to Making-of
• Wikilink Birmingham
• "National Indoor Arena, the venue for the upcoming" → "National Indoor Arena, the venue for the then-upcoming" with the wikilink
• "an interview with Katrina Leskanich" → "an interview with Leskanich"
• "Jonsson, and clips" → "Jonsson and clips"
• Shouldn't you mention telephone voting costing 10p per the source?
• "final, and the" → "final and the"
• Table looks good!

Promotion

• "Imaani performed on" you should add "the song" afterwards if she performed it on all of these
• "on 28 March 1998 and" → "on both 28 March and"
• "and she also" → "while she also"
• "on 8 and 22 May" → "on both 8 and 22 May"
• "documentary broadcast," → "documentary broadcast, titled"
• "for the contest." → "for the Eurovision Song Concert."
• "was released on" → "was released in the formats of both"
• "and also charted" → "while it also charted"
• "and Belgium's Ultratop." → "and Belgium's Ultratop chart."

At Eurovision

• Img looks good!
• "the United Kingdom was given" → "the UK was given"
• "to host the event in" → "to host the Eurovision Song Contest in"
• "of the upcoming contest," → "of the contest,"
• "the United Kingdom was assigned position sixteen," → "the UK was assigned position 16," per MOS:NUM
• "5 and 7 May," → "5 and 7 May 1998,"
• "of the contest the United Kingdom" → "of the contest, the UK"
• "hosted by Terry Wogan and Ulrika Jonsson" → "hosted by Wogan and Jonsson"
• "and Ken Bruce doing likewise" → "and Bruce doing likewise"
• [27] should be after the full-stop, before [30] and [31]
• "of the contest the United Kingdom" → "of the contest, the UK"
• "its fifteenth second-place finish in its" → "its 15th second-place finish in the nation's"

Voting

• "for this event," → "for the contest,"
• "to their ten" → "to their 10"
• "however the contest results" → "however, the contest results"
• Remove pipe on telephone
• "an 8-member back-up" → "an eight-member back-up"
• "after the contest." → "after the Eurovision Song Contest."
• "Ken Bruce was appointed" → "Bruce was appointed"
• Tables look good!

Notes

• During the contest Spain → During the contest, Spain
• and the points given to all other countries were → with the points given to all other countries being

References

• Copyvio score looks incredible at 5.7%!!!!!
• Nice job with the archiving of these!
• WP:OVERLINK of European Broadcasting Union on refs 2 and 3
• Remove bbc.co.uk from ref 8
• Same as above for refs 9, 12, 16, 17, 20, 22, 27, 29 and 31, plus fix WP:OVERLINK of BBC Genome Project on the ones of these that cite it
• Remove officialcharts.com from ref 23
• Same as above for ref 24, plus fix WP:OVERLINK of Official Charts Company
• Cite dutchcharts.nl as publisher instead for ref 25
• Remove bbc.co.uk from ref 34 and fix WP:OVERLINK of BBC News
• Remove bbc.co.uk from ref 37 and fix WP:OVERLINK of BBC

Further reading

• Wikilink Telos Publishing

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; interesting contrast to review a Eurovision article often using book sources! --K. Peake 17:38, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• @Kyle Peake: Thanks for the quick turnaround on the review! All comments above now addressed, please shout if I've missed anything. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Sims2aholic8 The selection process needed italicising in the infobox, but that was my fault for forgetting to suggest it so I fixed the issue for you. ✓ Pass now; no problems left as far as I can see! --K. Peake 18:55, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Kingsif (talk) 12:44, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

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British singer Imaani performing in 2008

• ... that Imaani (pictured), who represented the United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1998 was the first black artist to represent the UK at the contest? Source: "Dana International left the United Kingdom's Imaani behind her in second place. Imaani was the first ever black singer to represent the country.")
  • ALT1:... that in the Eurovision Song Contest the United Kingdom has finished in second place a record fifteen times, with Imaani (pictured) the last artist to do so when she represented the the country at the 1998 contest? Source: "It was the 15th time that the UK finished second." and "The UK has also finished second a record 15 times[...")

• Reviewed: The Coming War With Japan

Improved to Good Article status by Sims2aholic8 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:00, 23 March 2021 (UTC).

• Hi Sims2aholic8, review follows: article passed as GA on 22 March; article is well written and cited inline throughout; sources look reliable for the subject and I found no overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck of the ones I can access; image is appropriately and freely licensed; hooks are both interesting. I note that you use "first black artist" in the hook which is backed up by the source's "first black singer", but the article only states "first black solo artist". That'll need to be consistent. ALT1 is fine and checks out. A QPQ has been carried out - Dumelow (talk) 07:41, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks Dumelow, I've now made the necessary alignment change in the article to match ALT0. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:23, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Sims2aholic8, looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 09:17, 24 March 2021 (UTC)