Talk:USCGC Kukui (WAK-186)

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Note that it is suggested here that the article be moved from USS Colquitt (AK-174) to USCGC Kukui (WAK-186). When that is settled, the article needs a good workover - at present it's mostly a rather unencyclopaedic cut-and-paste job from DANFS and USCG. Davidships (talk) 20:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree on good workover. That said, I was somewhat surprised a quick dig for sources did not turn up more immediate history of the Pacific LORAN work. I've left ship stuff for a while diverted to a home project, but was going to rework this myself instead of finishing a couple of new ships here. The importance of the LORAN work was huge. I "lived" on the Pacific chains for years of sea time. The names of the stations there and in the Atlantic and Mediterranean were like friends and those "rates" were critical. There was less in definitive establishment history than I expected and certainly less with mention of this ship's work in the Pacific than I'd have thought. I will keep digging and may get time for a bit of revision with better use of existing and a few new references soon. First someone with "Wikipower" to swap an article name with a redirect name needs to do the swap. Palmeira (talk) 12:13, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the article but forgot to give a reason, which should have been "per discussion at WT:SHIPS". Mjroots (talk) 17:14, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Once I get that home project in hand I will spend some time trying to get this cleaned up with a bit more on the very important LORAN work in the Pacific. Palmeira (talk) 20:33, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Revision notes

The quick revision today only addressed some of the issues. One of the most glaring was a section on Philippine LORAN when the actual service was for the entire west Pacific chains, many located on extremely remote islands. The LORAN stations in the Philippines were just parts of the overall system the ship worked on and supplied. Someone must have seen transfer to the Philippines after CG and made the entire service history "Philippine" for that inaccurate to nonsense section. The ship's actual work was crucial to the operation of the system on those very remote islands. Heavy replacement and new equipment, including station small craft, were delivered, replaced and maintained by the ship. Major maintenance, beyond the capability of permanent maintenance sections, was performed on everything from the very tall masts to the housing. In some cases the ship performed repair work for all at larger islands, CG, Navy and even civilian, after typhoons or other destructive events. the 1947-1948 report (not yet referenced) describes such events. A tie also needs to be made to USS Menkar (AK-123) which did the initial work in the closing days of WW II with the new, classified and critical LORAN-A stations in newly captured locations. That ship then continued the work until the Coast Guard and its ship took over. Palmeira (talk) 15:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]