Talk:Tutti frutti

Low importance

why low importance? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.16.154.151 (talk) 09:11, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Roy Motherhead

At least one American cookbook contains a recipe suggesting Roy Motherhead did not create Tutti Frutti ice cream. The Italian Cookbook by Marie Gentile, published in New York in 1919, contains a recipe for Tutti Frutti Ice, which uses strawberries, pears, plums, apricots, peaches, cherries, cantaloupe, lemon juice, and powdered sugar. The end of the recipe says, "This is not the tutti frutti ice cream as is known in America..." - clearly suggesting that tutti frutti ice cream was popular in America before Roy Motherhead is credited with inventing between the 1920 to 1932. (A PDF of The Italian Cookbook and the Tutti Frutti recipe can be found online at The Historical American Cookbook Project, http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/cookbooks/coldfusion/display.cfm?ID=ital&PageNum=160). Additionally, the phrase "tutti frutti" is Italian for "all fruits" -- which the recipe reflects. The term "tutti frutti" was used in other recipes and food names prior to the 1950s: A 1928 cookbook, Seven Hundred Sandwiches by Florence A. Cowles (published in Boston) includes a recipe for a Tutti Frutti sandwich with a spread made of whipped cream, dates, raisins, figs, walnuts, and sugar. (Reference: http://www.foodtimeline.org/sandwichquiz.html) Prior to that, in 1888, one of the first gum flavors to be sold in a vending machine, created by the Adams New York Gum Company, was Tutti Frutti. (Reference: http://www.chewinggumfacts.com/chewing-gum-inventors/thomas-adams/) S. Chavis 04:14, 11 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schavis (talk • contribs)

Another Pre-1950 reference

In the 1937 Marx Brothers movie A Day At The races when they are at the track pushing the ice cream cart they are shouting "Get a your Tuttsie Fruitsie Ice A Cream, A Very Nice Ice A Cream" saying this in an Italian accent Marx Brothers style. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:612A:1300:1172:44EB:D3E3:13C4 (talk) 16:28, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Ice

I came late to this discussion, and have no prejudice about the issue. But this whole section seethes with a partisan, strong, point of view. With all respect to Roy Motherhead, and to his family, he did not invent tutti frutti ice cream but a popular version of it that later sold to Borden's ice cream in the 1950s. It is trivially easy to find online .pdf files of cookbooks going back to 1873. One .pdf is hosted by the library of Michigan State University, an unimpeachable, utterly reliable, source. They state their .pdf, is an exact, photographic, reproduction of every page of an 1873 book they hold in their collection. On page 451 there is a recipe which calls for dried, candied, fruits, just as described in the opening sentence of this article. This is an actual, tutti frutti ice cream, and not some other flavor just fancifully named. So there is documentary proof that tutti frutti ice cream was known before Mr. Motherhead. There are a few books published in Kentucky crediting Mr. Motherhead for his version of tutti fruitti.

I have attempted to edit the text to remove the strong attempts to convince the audience that the claims in favor of Motherhead are wrong. I just let the facts speak for themselves. I removed the Motherhead claim for two reasons: it is factually incorrect, and it was original research since it was the claim of his family made in the obituary.

I did this with no animus, and only the intention of returning this article to a NPOV and a reliable referenced basis. Nick Beeson (talk) 21:18, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

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