Talk:Tutbury bull run

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Did you know... that in medieval Tutbury, Staffordshire, minstrels chased a bull that, if caught, could be eaten or exchanged for forty pennies?

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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Tutbury bull run was ended in 1778 after the death of a man in a mass brawl? "in 1778 ... a violent quarrel took place ... William Bennett of the latter place had his scull fractured, and died within two days. The Rev. Mr Dixon .... drew up a petition to the Duke of Devonshire, requesting him to abolish the bull-running ... thus the infamous practice was finally discontinued" from: Mosley (bart.), Sir Oswald (1832). History of the castle, priory, and town of Tutbury, in the county of Stafford. Simpkin and Marshall. p. 90.
- ALT1:... that in medieval times minstrels chased a bull in Tutbury, Staffordshire in the hope of cutting off some hair and so claiming the animal? "if any of the minstreks can take and lay hold of him, so as to cut off a small portion of hair, and bring the same to the market-cross, in proof of their having caught him ... after which the minstrels had him for their own"
- ALT2:... that the animal used for the Tutbury bull run had its horns cut off, its ears and tail cropped, pepper blown in its nostrils and its body smeared in soap to make it harder to catch?"the bull's horns were removed, its ears and tail cropped, and its body smeared with soap ... pepper was blown into the bull's nose to make it angry" from: Roud, Steve (2008). The English Year. Penguin Books Limited. p. 575. ISBN 978-0-14-102106-5.

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Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 07:49, 10 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The hooks are tolerable, but could use some copy-editing to strengthen them. --evrik ^(talk) 03:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi evrik, thanks for your review. I've looked over the hooks but can't find any glaring issues. Perhaps you can suggest what is sub-par? ALT1 can perhaps be shortened to read:

ALT1a:... that in medieval times minstrels chased a bull in Tutbury, Staffordshire in the hope of claiming the animal?

Let me know - Dumelow (talk) 09:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1 and Alt 1a, Claiming the animal for what? The original hook lacks context. --evrik ^(talk) 17:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1b:... that in medieval times minstrels chased a bull in Tutbury, Staffordshire in the hope of claiming the animal for themselves?
ALT3:... that medieval minstrels were sometimes killed while taking part in the Tutbury bull run?
ALT4: ... that the Tutbury bull run was said to have been founded by John of Gaunt to remind his Spanish wife of her homeland?

Any good? - Dumelow (talk) 18:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Claiming for themselves, so what? The article gives a lot of detail on that point ... feasting, profit, etc. --evrik ^(talk) 18:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1c: ... that in medieval Tutbury, Staffordshire minstrels chased a bull which, if caught, could be eaten or exchanged for forty pennies? - Dumelow (talk) 08:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Approving Alt1c. --evrik ^(talk) 14:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]