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Good job!!

I think we are making some good progress, I will try to dig up more information on the history section. Let's see what I can come up with... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Baristarim (talk • contribs) 13:30, 2 September 2006.

FOREIGN WORDS IN THE TURKISH LANGUAGE

It was natural for an altaic language to be "poor" in words relating to socioeconomic and administrative subjects as well as matters associated with human endeavour outside the interests of nomadic people such as, for example agriculture. All such words had to be borrowed from civilisations altaic people came in contact with. In addition, after becoming moslems, it was necessary for most words used for the purposes of religion to come from the language of the Quran. These loans to Turkish account for some 55-60% of the Turkish vocabulary. Getting rid of the foreign words in order to "purify" the language, while retaining the subtle meanings carried by the loan words, without making the language poorer, is a tremendous task. GOOD LUCK ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.228.112.194 (talk) 04:34, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 January 2017

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The result of the move request was: no consensus after two relists, there is not a clear consensus as to what the article should be titled. Per WP:RMCI, the page is not moved as this is the stable title. (non-admin closure) TonyBallioni (talk) 00:23, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish Language Association → Turkish Language Institute – Turkish Language Association(Turkish: Dil Derneği) is the name of another not-for-profit body which is non-governing. It is founded as an alternative for Turkish Language Institute after it is reconstituted as a government entity. 88.245.26.100 (talk) 17:24, 31 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. SkyWarrior 19:50, 7 February 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. SkyWarrior 03:50, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, propose instead Turkish Language Society, the translation of "Türk Dil Kurumu". The page, and more importantly the Turkish language page, especially their objectives, http://www.tdk.gov.tr/images/Stratejik%20Plan.pdf are squarely in line with what we call a learned society, not an institution. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:17, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not necessarily: According to Merriam Webster [1] "association" is an organization of persons having a common interest and "institute" is an organization for the promotion of a cause (syn association) So both translations are OK. (By the way, as far as I know there is no Türk Dil Derneği, the name is Dil Derneği Thus there is no risk of confusion.) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:32, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting only because SmokeyJoe suggested another place this article could be moved to; one more week of debating won't hurt, right? SkyWarrior 03:50, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Agree - All three - "Turkish Language Institute", "Turkish Language Association", "Turkish Language Society" - are found in RS as translations of Türk Dil Kurumu. Institution has the most google hits (indicating widespread usage, in particular since Association will have a lot of Wikipedia clones to skew the numbers), but Association has more scholar hits. Society has by far the least google hits but a surprisingly large number of Scholar results. However, I think "association" and "society" do not in carry with it in English the implication of a state-financed policy-making body having official authority and approval to operate. "Institute" does. So I think, given that the sources route is not going to arrive at a conclusive answer, Institute is the most accurate translation for what Türk Dil Kurumu actually is. The others can be redirects, and mentioned in the lede as alternative translations. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 17:19, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The name of the page

The TDK is not exactly an association, it's an official institute that is financed by the state and is the biggest authority on the Turkish language. In Turkish, "kurum", as in "Türk Dil Kurumu", is most often translated as institution, foundation or institute - less often as an association. The page should be renamed. Euchaneian (talk) 13:46, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]