Talk:Trujillo Alto, Puerto Rico/Archive 1

Archive 1

Trujillo Alto flag and coat of arms svgs

Bringing conversations from various places to where it belongs:

@Niko3818:, thank you for working on the Trujillo Alto svgs. See here: 1) the mountains should be larger, less land, and 2) the cross should be larger, like seen here: this? @Cookieman1.1.1: if you use Google Translate you can translate what it states here from the sentence that begins with "Los ocho chorros de agua..." The eight fountains represent the 8 barrios of the municipality, etc. and the rivers and the lakes and the streams, etc. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 22:31, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

@Niko3818: I'm sorry. I'm not sure why the other editor went ahead and updated the Trujillo files after I told them that you were working on them. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 23:22, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

@The Eloquent Peasant: Happens, would you still want me to continue editing the file with the changes you requested? niko3818 (talk) 23:23, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

@Niko3818: Yes please. Thank you.--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 23:44, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Updated version of arms

@The Eloquent Peasant: Here it is niko3818 (talk) 00:00, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

@The Eloquent Peasant and Niko3818: Since both contributes are not responding i made my own version i based off multiple images. Let me know how it looks. --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 22:14, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: Your version is great! According to the municipality's website, that blue margin inside the shield (between the mountains and the cross) doesn't exist, and the other minor detail to change is the land below the mountains. I mean, less land and more mountains. That line should move a little further down by stretching the shape of the mountains. I recognize that you're doing a spectacular job. Congrats! Yarfpr (talk) 00:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: TY. here is another official doc - letterhead showing less land and more mountain. Thank you. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 01:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Cookieman1.1.1 version

@The Eloquent Peasant: I just updated it, check it out now --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 01:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: I looked and looked and tried to find a mistake. I wonder about the windows fill color. Should it be black? The template shows the windows having a brownish fill color but what do you think? --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 01:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@The Eloquent Peasant: Hmm, maybe its my monitor but the coat of arms appears to be a photo of it to me. I assume that it looks brown because of the lighting of the photo and is actually black but i could be incorrect. --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 01:52, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: Still do need less land in relation to the mountains. I already added it to wikidata and marked the .gif with the superceded template and will see which languages are auto updated. Then whatever language wikis aren't auto updated, needs to be manually updated. Yes, please make that slight change to show less land in relation to the mountain. Thanks. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 01:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@The Eloquent Peasant: Uh it does have less land and more mountain, i based it off the websites version --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 02:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Also check the spacing of the two bottom fountains. The bottom fountains should be on the same line as the line that divides the mountains from the land. The bottom fountain on the right, the bottom fountain on the left need to be moved down... currently they are too far away from the one fountain on the bottom. See here. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 02:03, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@The Eloquent Peasant: I resized the fountains, it seems all good now and im going to move on to the flag. TY. --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 02:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@The Eloquent Peasant: Also since this also is about the flag I fixed it, let me know how it looks.

Flag by Cookieman1.1.1

@Cookieman1.1.1: Your current version is pretty good, but still needs to be improved. The detail to be corrected lies between the line dividing the mountains and the land with respect to the height of the fountains on either side on the blue border of the shield. To achieve this correction, the blue cross must be slightly enlarged (which is approximately 1/3 of the space it occupies within the silver background), the mountains go down a little, and the line is more or less at the same height as the aforementioned fountains. To do this, the shape of the mountains would have to be reduced a little to maintain a ratio of approximately 1/3 of land to 2/3 of mountains. Also try to make the top of the mountain in the center coincide with the cross as in your design it looks slightly to the right. I hope I have explained myself well. Yarfpr (talk) 03:13, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: One last detail I noticed is that the crown needs to be slightly larger, so that the bottom part matches the length of each side of the shield. I think that with both suggestions there would be nothing more to perfect the shield. Yarfpr (talk) 03:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: - I hope you will make the requested changes but you did say "Uh it does have less land and more mountain..." I'm just hoping you'll make the changes requested since I already went ahead and started replacing other files with yours thinking you would make the minor changes asked for (on the coat of arms of Trujillo Alto). Next time, I won't jump the gun and will wait for consensus from everyone on your file before I supercede other files with yours. My apologies to the project participants for my jumping the gun. Cookieman? --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 10:35, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: Did you validate your Trujillo Alto coat of arms .svg ? ... I'm getting a bunch of errors when I try to validate it with this tool. https://validator.w3.org/ --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 10:43, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@The Eloquent Peasant: Sorry, it got late and i left for bed. Validating SVGs is something i've never heard of. Whats it for? --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 12:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I just opened it an it says "5 errors and 1 warning" but i still don't know what is the problem. --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 12:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Yarfpr: How do the mountains look now? --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 16:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: It looks much better. I know I'm bothering you a lot with the changes, but you never enlarged the crown, as I mentioned last night. I even just noticed that the tape that reads "Trujillo Alto" is reversed. The ends should have their folds down, not up. Yarfpr (talk) 16:55, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Yarfpr: I'll get working on the crown in a few, the ribbon looks to me like it is going up to me imo. --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 17:02, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: Nope. Your ribbon is incorrect. Compare your version with the official one on the municipality's website. I'm afraid I didn't explain myself well in my previous comment. The ends of the ribbon are curved up (that's correct), but the folds in your version are above "Trujillo Alto" instead of below. The devil is in the details. Yarfpr (talk) 18:09, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Yarfpr: Can you help me find the ribbon or one that is close to the original? I cant seem to find one on commons yet and i may need some help. --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 19:41, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: A version of the same shield created by another user appears right in some of The Eloquent Peasant's comment above, and in that version the ribbon appears as it should be shown in your version. I also want to give you some advice, if you will allow me: when you go to create files, check if someone else already has a design created. If the design has errors, please contact the person first and let them know that there are errors that need to be corrected. If the person fixes them, perfect. If it doesn't fix them, make your own version, but avoid duplicating it unnecessarily because that valuable time is wasted by not creating files that are needed with higher priority. I don't want you to take it the wrong way. I am simply saying this because I appreciate your time, effort and talent, but we must also always collaborate with other users before assuming our own interests. TC! Yarfpr (talk) 21:25, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Yarfpr and The Eloquent Peasant: Noted. How is it now? --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 21:57, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cookieman1.1.1: It's excellent for me. You did it! I hope it passes the validation. That's my last tip: before placing any symbol in an article, wait for other users to agree on the project's talk page. At the moment I have already given you all the help I had to give you. Yarfpr (talk) 22:26, 5 October 2020 (UTC)