Talk:True Blue (color)

Car color

There is no evidence that the car color is the same as the UCLA color, which sources say was developed by Adiddas and UCLA. Wikipedia:Don't build the Frankenstein is a concern here. If the car color is notable, it might be best to apply disambiguation on the multiple colors of the same name.—Bagumba (talk) 19:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Encoding for Pantone 285

Sources support that True Blue is Pantone 285. However, I am not sure how the hex (0073CF) and other encodings on this article were derived. This question came from Template_talk:UCLA#UCLA.27s_official_colors, where the differences between the academic color, UCLA Blue, and the university's athletic color, True Blue, were discussed. It appears an IP added the hex value here, while Keraunos, apparently based off the the previous hex value, derived the other RGB, CMYK, and HSV values. A search on Google yielded disparate values. For example, https://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?pg=20187&ca=10 had it as 3A75C4, and http://rgb.to/pantone/285-c has 0072ce. Or should it just be reverse-engineered from the UCLA Script logo at http://brand.ucla.edu/brand/digital/logo/ ? Suggestions are appreciated.—Bagumba (talk) 23:53, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

For now, I'm using the UCLA Script logo used by the athletic department at http://brand.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ucla-script-main-31.jpg, and used DigitalColor Meter to determine sRGB, and used online calculators to convert the settings. The hex comes out as 0581C1—Bagumba (talk) 09:52, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Why is there no disambiguation for this?

True Blue refers to the true blue hue, or a blue that is close to the color of the sky, and is always at full saturation, hence the True in front of it. Also the name true blue has been a Benjamin Moore color, a Krylon Spray paint color, and Ford Car color for much longer than UCLA has used the name. This is the reason why the Hex value #0073CF keeps popping up because that is the Hex value associated with true blue rather than the proprietary UCLA color hex #0581C1 which is on the page under color coordinates.

Benjamin Moore Paint http://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-us/paint-color/trueblue

Krylon True Blue http://www.krylon.com/document/SDS/en/US/72450401910

DupliColor Paint touch up for Ford Cars http://www.autozone.com/paint-and-body/paint-spray-can-and-touch-up/dupli-color-true-blue-perfect-match-paint/59675_0_0/

Sorry if I am not following the syntax well I am a designer and rarely comment in Wikipedia, but this is very misleading and blatant marketing for a University. Petedutro (talk) 16:59, 9 September 2015 (UTC)petedutro

@Petedutro: Thanks for the question. Wikipedia's articles are based on notability, meaning a topic needs to have sufficient coverage in reliable sources to justify inclusion as a standalone article. The school color is deemed to have that coverage. If other variants of the color also have sufficient coverage, they might warrant their own article. Another option is to include mention in this article about those other colors, but that would be determined by due weight i.e. how prevalent are the other colors covered in sources? Moreover, Wikipedia would base it off of independent sources to address the marketing concern that you raised. One way to think of it would be that the apple pie article should not be a coat rack to mention every apple pie baked in the world, even if it were true. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 17:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

@Bagumba - thanks for the reply, much appreciated :) But based off of your comments if "Wikipedia's articles are based on notability, meaning a topic needs to have sufficient coverage in reliable sources to justify inclusion as a standalone article." then that is a pretty weak way to determine reliability of information because popular does not mean right. This particular article flies in the face of what is well known in design and effectively becomes a marketing page. True blue or true red or yellow,green or whatever "true" color is a technical term as is "False" in color theory. there is even a wikipedia article that explains this well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color Best regards :)Petedutro (talk) 21:10, 10 September 2015 (UTC)petedutro

@Petedutro: As with everything, Wikipedia is not perfect. However, the rationale behind its notability principles is detailed at WP:WHYN, if you are interested. Specifically: "We require 'significant coverage' in reliable sources so that we can actually write a whole article, rather than half a paragraph or a definition of that topic." I understand what you are saying about the use of true in the UCLA/Adidas color name, but the primary purpose of Wikipedia is not to right great wrongs.—Bagumba (talk) 23:54, 10 September 2015 (UTC)