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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Narutolovehinata5 talk 10:38, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that after Troy Stolz appeared in a YouTube video, his former employer initiated criminal contempt of court proceedings against him? Source: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/i-ve-nothing-to-lose-dying-whistleblower-sued-by-clubsnsw-20220921-p5bjsr.html
- ALT1: ... that after Troy Stolz appeared in a YouTube video, a private company initiated criminal contempt of court proceedings against him? Source: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/i-ve-nothing-to-lose-dying-whistleblower-sued-by-clubsnsw-20220921-p5bjsr.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Daniel McCaffery

- Comment: If the source is log-in walled, the relevant excerpt reads

"ClubsNSW is also bringing its criminal prosecution against YouTuber Friendlyjordies, to whom Stolz gave an interview in July. Contempt prosecutions are generally brought by the court."

Alternatively, this source (https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/sep/02/friendlyjordies-jordan-shanks-and-clubsnsw-whistleblower-face-criminal-contempt-proceedings) is not paywalled, but the language is slightly different from what I'm using in the hook. Created by Acebulf (talk). Self-nominated at 04:23, 15 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Troy Stolz; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

I'll review this. ––– GMH Melbourne (talk) 08:16, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - The article contains Close paraphrasing (see here). Examples include where:

the source states The order proposed by the court would restrain Stolz from saying anything about the conduct of ClubsNSW in the case that is calculated to “intimidate, harass, or otherwise bring improper pressure on the respondent”. and then the article states As part of the lawsuit, ClubsNSW obtained injunctive relief restraining Stolz from speaking about the conduct of ClubsNSW in a way that could "bring improper pressure on the respondent".
the source states The decision to sue Stolz drew widespread condemnation from gambling advocates to former casino mogul James Packer and then the article states The decision to sue Stolz was widely criticized in the press, with casino mogul James Packer calling the lawsuit "ruthless [and] unethical".

I haven't checked all the citations for close paraphrasing, the examples above are the sources that showed up in Earwig's Copyvio Detector. I suggest going through each source and removing each instance of close paraphrasing.

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - I find the hooks to be a bit of a mouthful. What are your thoughts about something like:

ALT2: ... that whistleblower Troy Stolz faced criminal charges initiated by his former employer, ClubsNSW, who filed charges as the private prosecutor?

No problem if you still prefer your hooks, let me know your preference.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: ––– GMH Melbourne (talk) 09:03, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. Given numerous references on the same issue, achieving complete dissimilarity to all sources, especially in text direct quotes and in text surrounding it, is challenging. Deviating too much from source material risks compromising quote validity, and there's only so many ways to make the same point. I am not sure seeking to lower the 3% to 0% on Earwig by sacrificing in clarity or accuracy is a tradeoff that benefits the article. As such, I am withdrawing the application. Acebulf ^{(talk | contribs)} 23:46, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]