Talk:Trojan (automobile)

A fact from Trojan (automobile) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 September 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the manufacturer of the Trojan car claimed that driving it was cheaper than walking?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2006/September.

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What shaped ?

"punt" shaped?

What does that mean? Tjic

It was a large metal tray shaped like a Punt (boat). Malcolma 19:56, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photo?

This could really do with a photo of some sort. --Gavinio 16:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger

I propose that Trojan (Racing team) and Trojan (automobile) should be merged - I think they're discussing the same entity. DH85868993 16:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Against. There is a lot of work required on the Trojan (Racing team) to distinguish it from the car manufacturer, but it is important enough to deserve it's own article. Mighty Antar 20:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the racing team page should be kept separate as it is a different subject from the company and the vehicles they produced. EarthRise 23:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The line is a bit blurred, as Trojan (Racing) Ltd. got into building racing cars by constructing customer McLaren cars from 1971. This was under the management of Ron Smith (incidentally, the inventor of the Burt strut, godfather of the whoosh-bonk McLaren M3A, and former manager to Stirling Moss), who had been a mate of Bruce's since the very beginnings of McLaren cars. Quite how the road car and racing car arms of Trojan are linked I'm not sure, but it is clear that the two were concurrent and distinct for at least a few years. I think that there may well eventually be enough material to retain Trojan (Racing) Ltd. as a separate entity, with a {{main}} link from the Trojan (automobile) page. Demerging is always a more complicated process, so let's not be too hasty. Pyrop e 10:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Against If you are going to do that you might as well merge Spyker F1 with Spyker Cars and so on. Unnecessary complication.--Sotonfc4life (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For: If they are the same entity, then they should be under the same article. Maybe Spyker Cars should be merged with Spyker F1. Respectfully, SamBlob (talk) 02:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict

The dates for production of the Elva Courier conflict with those on the Elva page? Rupertlt (talk) 22:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed it with what I could find with references. Mighty Antar (talk) 00:14, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trojan/Trobike

This article starts off about the Trojan car, then covers several other products, ending up with a bike. Should it be retitled Trojan (Motor manufacturer) or split according to the various vehicles? The Yowser (talk) 12:06, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I suspect that "automobile" was added a few years ago, when an editor ran amok renaming UK car manufacturers to "automobile" manufacturers, despite WP:ENGVAR and despite this being a term almost unheard in the UK.

I'd favour Trojan (motor manufacturer). They started off as a car maker, but they're best remembered for their light vans. Another editor recently tried to rename those as "Bradford" vehicles, which is quite incorrect for the manufacturer. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:56, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a very sensible improvement to make. Mighty Antar (talk) 16:30, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vehicle Names

Under the heading of Sports and Bubblecars the text includes the statement "the Trojan 200, the last vehicle to bear the Trojan name". It might be more accurate to redraft this to the effect that this was the last car produced by the Trojan company. My reasoning is that, not for the first time, some other manufacturer has hijacked a classic British name for use on another vehicle (in this case, the Mitusubishi Trojan). Douglasson (talk) 18:25, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced Trobike section (and possible copyvio)

I was intending to edit this Trobike section (needs precis, too wordy), but I noticed that the entire section was copy/pasted appearing in the one inline reference source website, but which came first? It's either copyvio OR own research OR not attributed to published work(s).

Accordingly I've placed a refimprove section tag, as it's an obscure article anyway not too worried over copyright queries, and I've just performed minor ce and wlkilinks. As with most things on Wikipedia, it's the Law of Diminishing Returns to try to get to the bottom of it.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 01:21, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]