Talk:Triangulation (chess)

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reference for diagram and moves

- I think I put in the example, but it did not come from Flear 2004. I don't remember which book it came from - I'd like to reference it. Bubba73 (talk), 18:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reference found and added (just a few minutes later, on 10 Aug 2006). Bubba73 (talk), 22:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shirov-Grischuk example

I don't suppose anybody knows any more details about the Shirov-Grischuk example given in this article (or if Silman gives more details in his book)? It's a very nice example, but I can't seem to find the source game in any databases. --Camembert (talk) 15:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Silman's book gives about 2½ pages on that ending, this article only talks about a small part of it, dealing with the triangulation. Silman starts about 11 moves before the triangulation and goes for about 9 more moves. Bubba73 (talk), 16:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For some reason, it isn't in either ChessGames or ChessBase (my copy). Bubba73 (talk), 16:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, its absence from databases suggests it may have been a blitz game, but it'd be nice to know under what circumstances it was played. Silman himself doesn't say where or in what tournament it occured, then? --Camembert (talk) 17:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I see you've added the location now--thanks :) Presumably, then, it was a tie-break game from the FIDE World Championship that year. --Camembert (talk) 17:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

...except that their match didn't go to tie-breaks[1], and none of the games in it reached this position. It doesn't even look to me like the position could have occured in an analysis variation from any of them (game one did go to a pawn ending, but it never resembled the diagram position very much). Very strange. Anyway, not a big deal, the article gives a reference and the position is interesting no matter what its origin. I'm still curious about it, but it's probably not a big deal as far as the article is concerned. --Camembert (talk) 17:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Perhaps Silman's book has an error in the date, location, or even players.~~ Bubba73 (talk), 17:34, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Answer: this is analysis from a game. Silman's book deviates from what Shirov played several moves before this position. I'll correct it in the article later. Bubba73 (talk),

Thank you for pointing this out. Bubba73 (talk), 17:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]