Talk:Transverse leaf spring front suspension
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Re-name
[edit]This is too long a name, but at least not derogatory! David R. Ingham (talk) 02:15, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
center pivot
[edit]Perhaps someone who knows more about modified American cars can explain if there really were such suspensions with zero roll resistance at the front. It would explain the therm "suicide axle", because all roll torque would be taken at the rear, tending to extreme oversteer. David R. Ingham (talk) 03:24, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Is this article necessary?
[edit]To me it looks like an article about a specific type of suspension that isn't terribly notable. --Therealelizacat (talk) 15:48, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- Few articles are "necessary", nor are some "less notable". If it meets WP:N, it is notable. After all, we have articles on two US footballers that basically state, "He is notable for never having done anything notable in his career".
- The subject is the Model T, and that's a massive number of cars, at an important transitional point in the history of the car. There is scope for this article's coverage, whether in one article here or as part of a larger scope on transverse front leaf spring suspension. But if you're planning to make such a change, at least achieve a change that makes it better. Corvette leaf spring is an example of what happens when someone says "This article is too small, it must be fixed!" but then fails to make it any better. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:58, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Merge to Independent suspension?
[edit]Per [1] [2], should this be merged? I'm against it, mostly because this design isn't even an independent suspension. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:43, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Merge, re-name, anything
[edit]Looking at the above it's clear I'm not the first person to question the state of this article.
I don't see how the Ford setup is more notable than any other car to use such a setup aside from likely being the most prolific - but that doesn't justify a separate Ford-only article. Even so, it's lacking in that respect, as "early Ford cars" is vague and there's nearly no Ford-specific information to begin with. I had to do a fair bit of research to determine that it didn't appear on Fords until the Model T, and continued up through 1948. "Early" implied to me that it both started and ended earlier than that.
There's no general article for transverse leaf spring setups. Corvette leaf spring appears to be specific to independent suspensions.
I'd suggest, at minimum, renaming this article to cover either all transverse leaf spring front suspensions, or all with a solid axle. Merging it into another article would be an option as well, but there doesn't seem to be one particularly suited for that. Any input would be welcomed. --Sable232 (talk) 02:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- For lack of any input, and noticing that the original page title was not manufacturer-specific either, I've moved the page. --Sable232 (talk) 16:28, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Various observations
[edit]Some may find the subject insignificant. However right now a car with this type of suspension is parked in the next street, a Ford Pop, made up till 1959, so the technology is still very much in use, albeit by a very small minority of people. Anyway it was a step in the process of evolving the modern car. Appropriately but by coincidence, the Pop was discontinued in the same year, 1959, the the advent of the Mini put the emphasis firmly on good, safe handling.
I have driven one of these many years ago, and have expanded the disadvantages section to attempt to explain why the combination of leaf spring and beam axle does not promote good handling. Please improve what I wrote if you can.
I have some reason to believe that other manufacturers also used this layout. I see a picture (URL blacklisted by Wikipedia) which is of an Austin 7 with what is clearly a transverse leaf spring, with modern additions to provide a different and much better form of lateral location. I don't have sufficient information to be confident of including this in the article yet. Opinions welcome!