Talk:Torture during the Israel–Hamas war
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[edit]Reference 25 is broken. The correct url is: https://www.unrwa.org/sites/default/files/content/resources/summary_on_detention_and_alleged_ill-treatmentupdated.pdf, note the "updated" at the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A10:8012:7:69F6:AD02:6A9C:67B:FCE3 (talk) 13:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Resolved CarmenEsparzaAmoux (talk) 17:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Change Infobox civil conflict to infobox civilian attack
[edit]This isn’t a protest or battle it’s about a human right’s violation so I suggest the Infobox civil conflict be changed to Infobox civilian attack or the Infobox civil conflict be removed completely
So I suggest something like this:
Torture during the Israel–Hamas war | |
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Location | Israel, Israeli occupied territories |
Date | 7th October 2023 – present |
Target | Palestinians |
Attack type | Beatings, sexual abuse, dog attacks |
Perpetrators | Israel |
TazunaJersey (talk) 16:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
972 magazine
[edit]Andrevan, the last RfC on the magazine found most users giving it a "1" or "2", meaning it should be considered reliable enough.VR (Please ping on reply) 06:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've reviewed that link, and I don't really see a clear consensus that it was reliable. The difference between 1 and 2 is rather large and the message from Chetsford also offers a bunch of old discussions. Probably ripe for a new thread at WP:RSN. But regardless, I do not think that such an WP:EXTRAORDINARY claim as the fact that Israeli prisons were intentionally giving prisoners scabies (versus, say, an unfortunate result of overcrowding and unsanitary conditions in prisons, but not an intentional punishment), is credible unless we have other outlets saying that, we need better sourcing than this. Andre🚐 07:22, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies in advance for continuously bumping into you, but I don't see any reason to consider +972 Magazine unreliable.
- Nevertheless, though I've re-added the report by +972 Magazine, I've also reworded it to further attribute the material to a dermatologist & their respective quote.
- I hope attribution to a medical professional can better reflect the reliability of the report's findings. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 17:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- While that improvement of attribution and quotation is better, I don't think the dermatologist's medical view meets WP:MEDRS, and I also think that this source isn't sufficient for the claim that Israeli prisons are torturing prisoners by effectively intentionally giving them scabies. Other prisons in other parts of the world have issues of scabies outbreaks due to close contact of inmates and poor healthcare. I don't see that it's fair to say that it's intentional based on this report. Andre🚐 20:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Andrevan @Vice regent I'm unsure if it would be considered a breach of WP:MEDRS, so I've asked here for clarification. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 20:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- While that improvement of attribution and quotation is better, I don't think the dermatologist's medical view meets WP:MEDRS, and I also think that this source isn't sufficient for the claim that Israeli prisons are torturing prisoners by effectively intentionally giving them scabies. Other prisons in other parts of the world have issues of scabies outbreaks due to close contact of inmates and poor healthcare. I don't see that it's fair to say that it's intentional based on this report. Andre🚐 20:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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