Talk:Tomorrow X Together discography

Japan Hot 100

Carlobunnie, I was thinking if Japan Hot 100 chart performance can also be added for the singles, since most of them charted (Discographies of Twice and Seventeen also have JPN Hot 100 positions for the singles). As for the sales figures, I can try finding more refs. Here is the link for their chart history. These are the links for the individual peak positions:

• 1) "Crown" – 24 Dated 2019/03/18
• 2) "9 and Three Quarters (Run Away)" (Japanese ver.) – 4 Dated 2020/01/27
• 3) "Can't You See Me?" – 43 Dated 2020/06/01
• 4) "Drama" (Japanese ver.) – 4 Dated 2020/08/31
• 5) "Blue Hour" – 57 Dated 2020/11/09

For the Japanese version of "9 and Three Quarters (Run Away)", a note could be added. Similarly another note could be added for the single album "Drama". Please let me know what you think. --Ashleyyoursmile! 07:35, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ashleyyoursmile: I was planning on doing the Singles like the BTS Singles discog (SK+JPN each have a column for the relevant BB chart under them aside from Gaon+Oricon), so yes. If you like (and have the time), you can go ahead+add the info to the table or I can do it when I'm finished w the albums section (which was actually my original plan). -- Carlobunnie (talk) 16:21, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ashleyyoursmile: So I partially misunderstood what you meant when you linked the Twice discog above as an example, but after Abdotorg's edit I get where I was going wrong. There are a few things that don't make sense to me, like why the main gaon page link is included before the specific chart week refs are listed out, since I've had minimal interactions with discogs beyond chart updates, but ik you'll make whatever corrections are needed once you check the page. I'd been following the BTS one all this time because I thought that's how they're supposed to be done (aside from my reading of WP:DISCOGSTYLE). -- Carlobunnie (talk) 22:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Carlobunnie, I saw the edits made by you and Abdotorg, and the page looks great now! Regarding the main gaon link placed before the chart ref.s I don't know why that is done that way, but I presume it's just so to avoid mentioning Gaon Music Chart for each week. You can check out Girls' Generation discography, it's a FA but doesn't follow this kind of peculiar ref. formatting. Also, thank you for adding the K-pop Hot 100 positions as well. --Ashleyyoursmile! 08:52, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Re: refs for OST singles

Ïvana I removed the ref for Live On since the OST is mentioned in detail on the show's page+sourced (took the Beyonce discography as a pattern). If the OST doesn't have an article or isn't mentioned in the article of its parent show/movie I use a ref to support (like w the anime themes). Figured I'd explain here and depending on your thoughts we can leave it or remove it again. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 06:09, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie: Sounds good to me! - Ïvana (talk) 14:03, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

BB chart update

Ss112 not that you care, but I was referring to the actual charts themselves, not the artist's chart history. That's why I specified the charts hadn't updated yet, because the actual bb200+world albums charts both still say June 12, not the 19. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 05:00, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie: Since when do we wait for the actual chart to update when we have artist chart history pages proving the new chart positions? If the actual chart link was the only source available or the only source listed hitherto on the article itself, I would understand your revert, but it's not. The article itself has the artist chart history pages as sources, not the individual chart links. Considering your extensive contributions to this article, I would certainly think you would have known that and not have reverted. Ss112 05:03, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ss112: I have never been told before by anyone on WP that artist chart histories update before the charts themselves. I've always known article updates to be made after the charts update, at which point the archives for the chart histories are also then updated. So if I see the chart says something diff to what another editor posts I will assume they've made a mistake. While I understand you know more about updating these things than me it doesn't mean you can't make a mistake on ocassion, or that someone won't think you've made a mistake even if you haven't. And I don't know every single thing about why certain links are used over others on discographies. The bulk of this content was created/added by other editors on the artist's main article. My extensive contributions were only to clean it up, make it a standalone article, and then sort of maintain it, so if I incorrectly revert something or do something that seems stupid to you it's because I genuinely don't know that I shouldn't. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 05:16, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie: Well then, from this, now you know that (Billboard's) artist chart histories update hours in advance of the charts themselves. By the way, I know every editor makes mistakes, but I was confident on this occasion I had not, hence my saying what I said—that I do not update charts unless the provided source has updated, or am I providing an external source. That's not saying I am always faultless. Ss112 05:25, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ss112: Thank you for telling me. I will remember it going forward. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 05:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Other charted songs

None of the songs (barring "Drama", which was moved to the main table) in this table entered the main Gaon chart. They did, however, enter the Download and Streaming charts. Should the first Kor col be removed (it is possible future songs might chart), or left as is and the "X song did not enter the Gaon Digital Chart, but entered the Download chart at number A"-note be inserted instead? Idk what the precedent is. The existing ref (for Drama) in the col obv has to be removed (I forgot it was still there). -- Carlobunnie (talk) 20:38, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

OSTs

@Carlobunnie: I see where you are coming from, but there is no policy amongst FLC promoters that it needs to be like that. There are many discographies that have them separated as well such as Maroon 5 discography, mewithoutYou discography, Ben&Ben discography, Red Hot Chili Peppers discography, Tinashe discography and others. If that's what works for Korean artists discographies best than it should remain as is. Combining OSTs and actual singles can be confusing for viewers (at least it was for me when I first stumbled across this page). ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 21:18, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

To be clear, I wasn't implying there's a particular policy that dictates it should be so, but more that those articles are good examples to reference/follow and that's how I did this discog. I've prev come across more discogs that list them together (Christina Aguilera's is another that comes to mind, my memory isn't the best so I can't list more off the top of my head atm) and I think it makes sense. A song released on its own as a single by the artist should be in the lead artist table. The album column clearly shows whether the single was released for a personal project, tv/film, or both, so I don't see how there's room for confusion. If a song by an artist is only released as part of a soundtrack album, and not separately, then that's not a single is it? Re: the Maroon 5 discog example, "Woman" and Lovely Day" are listed under "Other appearances" because those songs weren't released as singles on their own, but they were contributed by the band to the respective film soundtracks (Tinashe's "The Leap" under Guest appearances is similar to this, the other songs she did for tv/film in that table were not released as individual singles either to the best of my knowledge). The TXT ost songs were released as individual singles (regardless of "Your Light" and "Love Sight" being later included on the complete soundtrack albums for their respective series), so imo they're where they should be. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 22:09, 19 August 2022 (UTC)