Talk:Tomb of Cyrus the Great

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Looted?

I assume that robbers have broken it open and looted the interior? Drutt (talk) 04:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is his Body still in there? Or is it gone and assumed to have been stolen by looters? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.25.176.92 (talk) 21:40, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

These are excellent questions which (unfortunately) aren't addressed by the article. Anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.96.77.108 (talk) 03:10, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I visited this site in 2010 and near may found an archeological murales with portraits ancient kings and a small river where people take bath Putojudio (talk) 23:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please add more to this.

This is an ancient structure that is extremely well-known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6001:E790:5800:803F:BB65:7B85:FC5F (talk) 00:15, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source of source?

"Persia: The Immortal Kingdom" is cited, but what is this book?Kdammers (talk) 19:09, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Have not seen where this source is, according to you, cited.---Wikaviani (talk) 23:42, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Another variation, as documented in Persia: The Immortal Kingdom, is:

"O man, whoever thou art, from wheresoever thou cometh, for I know you shall come, I am Cyrus, who founded the Persian Empire. Grudge me not, therefore, this little earth that covers my body."

Kdammers (talk) 01:51, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks, the book is only quoted, but not listed with the other reffs. Here is what i found about this book : [1].---Wikaviani (talk) 02:14, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Date of the monument

In Strabo, greek sources ;P Strabo, "The Geography of Strabo. Literally translated, with notes, in three volumes", W. Falconer, H.C. Hamilton (tłum.), t. 3, London: George Bell & Sons, 1889, Strb. XV.3.8, p.134: "Cyrus held in honour Pasargadæ because he there conquered in his last battle Astyages the Mede and transferred to himself the empire of Asia he raised it to the rank of a city and built a palace in memory of his victory." It was about 550 BC.

In Briant P., From Cyrus to Alexander: A History of the Persian Empire, Eisenbrauns, 2002, ISBN 0-19-813190-9, p.85:

in "Palace and Gardens of Pasargadae":

"It was in Persia that Cyrus decided to erect a new capital, Pasargadae, situated at a height of about 1900 m in the Zagros, some 40 km as the crow flies from the site of Persepolis. Strabo (XV.3.80) describes the conditions of the foundation of the town in these terms: 'Cyrus held Pasargadae in honour, because he there conquered Astyages the Mede in his last battle, transferred to himself the empire of Asia, founded a city, an d constructed a palace as a memorial of his victory.' In reality, the link of cause and effect asserted by Strabo is dubious, for the battles won at Pasargadae against the Medes were not the last ones; far from it. At any rate, numerous archaeological arguments favor a date after the conquest of Sardis for the founding of Pasargadae."

In Stronach D., Pasargadae. A Report of the Excavations Conducted by the British Institute of Persian Studies from 1961 to 1963, Oxford University Press, Oxford 1978, ISBN 0-19-813190-9

p.22,23 "The technical basis of the work points firmly to the reign of Cyrus and more particularly, from what we know of the historical events of the time, to the years 546-530. Indeed, limited as the evidence is, it is not unreasonable to suppose that Cyrus' own unfinished designfor an elevated residential palace was based, in part at least, on the signal model of the Lydian royal acropolis at Sardis and that many of his masons were brought directly to Pasargadae from the still unfinished temple of Artemis at Ephesus."

p.42, chapter: THE TOMB OF CYRUS, Conclusion:

"The development of the cyma reversa and that of the basic elements of the Ionic entablature, consisting of dentils, cyma, and geison, appears to have taken place in the decade 540-530 B.C, i.e. at exactly the time that the tomb of Cyrus was being built. For this reason it is understandable that the entablature of the tomb shows unorthodox features. W efind,for example, that the cyma reversa is more dominant in relation to other parts of the cornice than usual and, although the tomb does have a geison or corona (i.e. the protruding member of the cornice having a vertical face) above the cyma reversa, it has no denticulations below this moulding."

--Dmk121 (talk) 07:48, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Metal bundles etc.

"The mausoleum was built without mortar, but the metal bundles of the mounds connected the stones, almost all of which had been dug up and removed, leaving unpleasant dimples that damaged the building's strength. A team led by Alireza Shapour Shahbazi repaired these ditches as much as possible with the pieces they had brought from the Sivand mine."

This surely has to do with the iron or lead clamps used to secure masonry in antiquity. However, any reader who doesn't know about that will find the text perplexing... "metal bundles of the mounds connected the stones"? "Dug up and removed"? "Unpleasant dimples"? "Repaired these ditches"? "The pieces"? 2A02:AA1:1628:5220:6DA8:5856:CDF6:9A69 (talk) 15:16, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]