Talk:Timeline of social nudity

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This article was nominated for deletion on July 25, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

Copyright use

I orginally created the timeline at BFC's page on bodyfreedom.org. I moved it to Wikipedia so others could improve it. There is nothing like it anywhere on the web or in print, as far as I know. You can verify who I am here Daniel Lorenz Johnson and by viewing the page on the BFC website [1] which refers to this article User:Dandelion (talk|contribs) 23:30, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Time span?

Is this timeline only supposed to present the subject in the modern era, or should ancient events relevant to public nudity be included? I'm adding one or two now as an example. In either case I can't help but think that there's quite a bit of compression in the early part. At the beginning are recorded truly major trends and events; toward the end are a whole slew of minor incidents of direct action. It seems skewed. TCC (talk) (contribs) 21:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient events would be a great addition! User:Dandelion (talk|contribs) 03:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit on Feburary 2009

In my opinion, the article needs a bit of work making the style a bit more consistant. While I fixed the obvious issues, it seems as if the entries were pasted or inserted using a semi-random style. Also, the article needs updating for some recent events or in other countries - from I recall, there were some topless laws struck down as unconstitutional in some regions. --Sigma 7 (talk) 02:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Early Soviet Russia

I have removed the following section on the basis of improper footnoting (no page number provided):

1922: The Down With Shame movement in the Soviet Union holds nude marches and "Evenings of the Denuded Body" intended to dispel earlier, "bourgeois" morality.^[1]^[2]

Footnotes

^ Siegelbaum, Lewis H. Soviet state and society between revolutions, 1918-1929. ISBN 978-0521369879.
^ Hamburg, Gary. Rise and Fall of Soviet Communism. The Teaching Company. ISBN 978-0102250244.

This same material was posted at History of nudity. In the process of trying to locate a page number for the Siegelbaum, a book which I own, I have been unable to find any reference to either "Down with Shame" or "nudity" or "Evenings of the Denuded Body" in the index, not have I been able to locate this information in a cursory skim of the relevant time period of the book. I have sought clarification from the author of this section and am removing the material until clarification is provided. Please do not restore this material without providing proper page citation. Thanks. Carrite (talk) 22:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As I noted on your talk page, it is on page 114. Simply because it is not in the index does not mean that it is not in the book. I am restoring the information, as there was nothing incorrect about it. I have also added a third ref (to an article in a major English-language news magazine) just to make it easier for readers to verify that this really existed. Heather (talk) 23:36, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relevance of Burning Man festival?

The Burning Man festival is mentioned twice, without any mention of the relevance of this festival to the subject of this article. The Burning Man article mentions public nudity, so there is probably some relevance, but it is not made clear or explicit in this article. This article mentions the first year of Burning Man - but does not say if nudity was involved at that time. There are links to the Burning Man website, but that does not mention nudity that I can find. FrankSier (talk) 22:46, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is Wikipedia. If you feel there are shortcomings please go ahead and fix them as per WP:BEBOLD.Lumos3 (talk) 09:26, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Christianity, Roman era and Japanese public bathing

You can find all that follows already on other articles on Wikipedia:

Somewhere on the Bible says that it is a shame that someone be shown naked.
Romans condemned silk woman wearing as being inmoral due to its transparence.
Public Mixed Bathing in JApan was banned during the american ocupation ¿fourties? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.56.154.109 (talk) 00:45, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

The article contains a good deal of unsourced material and has been tagged accordingly. SunCrow (talk) 22:43, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

History or myth?

The opening section clearly states that the topic is historical, yet includes events that are mythical according to the cited reference, such as Lady Godiva. Such items could either be clearly noted as mythical but relevant to social history, or removed.--WriterArtistDC (talk) 16:45, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lacking any response I have added a NPOV tag. Other issues include a Christian pov as reflected in the inclusion of Biblical references as history, and the use of BC/AD time periods; BCE/CE is neutral. Otherwise, the entries are almost entirely from Western cultures. In addition, the section division seem arbitrary; why break at 1800 and 1974?--WriterArtistDC (talk) 15:59, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mythical, including biblical, references should be identified as such. However, if they are relevant then there's no need to remove them. The use of BC/AD is religious in origin but is universally understood. Technically, BCE/CE would be more neutral. The choice of chronological breakpoints is bound to be arbitrary and subjective to an extent. --Roly (talk) 17:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed "Streaking" link

Changed link to correct page. Roly (talk) 09:49, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading title

Title should be changed to «Timeline of social nudity in the Western culture», as no mentions are made of nudity in any other cultures at all.

--77.75.179.1 (talk) 09:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Siegelbaum, Lewis H. Soviet state and society between revolutions, 1918-1929. ISBN 978-0521369879.

[2] Hamburg, Gary. Rise and Fall of Soviet Communism. The Teaching Company. ISBN 978-0102250244.

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