Talk:Tim Minchin
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Notable appearances
[edit]Maybe a new section could be created to list his notable appearances both on TV & radio? Would make the career section look neater? Casey boy (talk) 01:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Any relation to Nick Minchin?
[edit]Is he related at all to Australian Federal Shadow Minister Nick Minchin? It doesn't say who his parents are. Nick Minchin isn't from Perth, so probably not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.63.201 (talk) 23:25, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, searched a bit, over here: http://www.ripitup.com.au/interviews/2463 it says that he's a second cousin once removed:
Favourite Adelaide moment?
“Seeing my second cousin once removed, Senator Nick Minchin on the street. He’d better come to my show this year or I’ll go to his house and leave a strongly worded letter in his letterbox. God help me I will.”
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.63.201 (talk) 23:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Removal of Storm information
[edit]I write regarding this edit. I removed the information mostly due to the fact it seems unnecessary to include it in the article. It isn't really adding anything to the article, especially simply quoting the lyrics. I do know the information to be correct however. TomBeasley (talk) 18:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Birthplace
[edit]In regard to Tim Minchin, Ive noticed that there is some incorrect information regarding his birthplace, it read on his Wikipedia article that he was born in the United Kingdom, this isn't true as he states in his DVD So Live that he was BORN and raised in Perth Western Australia, he furthers this in one of his songs about growing up in Perth and sneaking out at night. I am not too into computer editing so I do not really know how to chanje all the HTML stuff to rectify this, but I was hoping there would be someone who can. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by ConnorN57 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
If you check the source from Tim's twitter here, then you can see that he states he was born in Northampton, UK. He was raised in Perth. TomBeasley (talk) 14:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Write-up in SMH
[edit]There's a write-up in SMH at the moment that might be a good source: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/comedy/a-funny-way-to-make-it-big-20110129-1a8po.html -- (ɔ|ʇ) uıɐʌoɥɔ ʞɹɐɯ 14:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Controversy section
[edit]The controversy section seems to be... strangely lacking in any actual controversy. There's a description of Tim's Pope Song - which, yes, could conceivably offend some devout Catholics - but there's no mention of any kind of reaction or outcry or... well, controversy. I wasn't aware of any particular controversy surrounding the song, and a quick Google turned up nothing either, so I've deleted the section. --Shoemoney2night (talk) 14:38, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- also his hypocrisy as a part-time skeptic needs to be mentioned - especially his inability to show skepticism towards catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.163.233 (talk) 23:54, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Wikikipedia also does not like criticism/controversy sections, and prefers to have it worked into the rest of the article.MilkStraw532 (talk) 23:52, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Should "F**king" be changed to "Fucking"?
[edit]I found it odd that the DVD So Fucking Rock Live is listed here as So F**king Rock Live and that it is also the official title of the page for that DVD. The particular song that gives the DVD its title is correctly listed on that page as "So Fucking Rock" and the page for the So Rock album also correctly lists the song as "So Fucking Rock". Furthermore, the cover of the DVD shows that the title is represented there as So Fucking Rock Live, not So F**king Rock Live.
Some confusion might be caused by Minchin's own website, as in the "About" section the DVD is called So Fucking Rock Live and the cover with that title is shown on the "Merchandise" page, but beside the cover it is called So F**king Rock Live. Also, Minchin has T-shirts for sale that read "I am so f**ing rock". I understand why some retail outlets and media reports will not use the word "fucking", but it does appear that this is the official title. Anyone familiar with Minchin's discussion of the use of the asterisk to censor will not be surprised by that. But since it is the official title and Wikipedia has a no censorship policy, I would suggest that the changes be made to this page and the DVD's page, including it's name. 99.192.73.135 (talk) 01:02, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- Looking at the DVD cover (reproduced at higher resolution on Amazon) it doesn't actually use the "u" and "c" characters – there's a guitar and a ©opyright symbol instead. So perhaps So Fucking Rock Live isn't actually the official title? All the online retailers I checked are using the asterisks. Anyway, I've created a redirect from So Fucking Rock Live to So F**king Rock Live in case there's any confusion. - Pointillist (talk) 12:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- Well, it is interesting that the letters "u" and "c" are stylized on the cover, but then again, all the letters are produced in an odd way to suggest a random grab of typefaces. It, at the very least, shows that the official title does not contain asterisks. It also seems a bit of a stretch especially to say that a "c" inside a circle is not just a sylized "c" in this context. If there is any doubt as to what the title of the DVD is, it would seem that "uc" better represents how it is printed on the cover than "**" does.
- The article for P!nk, for example, does not use the exclamation point in its title or the header of the article even though Alecia Beth Hart represents her name as "P!nk" because it is merely a stylized representation of "Pink". At best, the guitar necks and copyright symbol are the same here. So I still think that the titles should be changed to So Fucking Rock Live here. That retailers use asterisks for censorship reasons is not a reason for Wikipedia to do the same. 99.192.73.135 (talk) 13:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- Addendum: I just followed your link to Amazon after posting my above reply and then I typed "so fucking rock live" into the search box and it took me to this page: [1]. So it would seem that Amazon does recognize that the asterisks are a censored version of the title. 99.192.73.135 (talk) 13:51, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- Mmm, but as you pointed out earlier Tim Minchin's online shop uses the asterisks too. We've nothing to go on without a reliable source. Maybe he decided to censor the album title in the interests of getting sales via Amazon etc., and now he's stuck with the decision? - Pointillist (talk) 14:48, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- "as you pointed out earlier Tim Minchin's online shop uses the asterisks too". That's not quite what I said. I said that his website does it both ways. I would also reiterate that if the DVD cover does not use asterisks then there is no reason to think that that is the official title. Retailers routinely use asterisks instead of spelling out "fuck", so when they do so it is not a real indication of the proper title. But that Amazon does acknowledge that the title includes "fucking" is a significant indication.
- But if, as we have established, it is sometimes written one way and sometimes another, it seems odd for the article to only include it in one representation, especially when that just happens to be the censored version. Amazon and Minchin's website confirms that, at the very least, So Fucking Rock Live is one version of the title, even if one thinks it is not the only version of the title. So it would be accurate for the article present the title as such. 99.192.73.135 (talk) 15:01, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I've changed the DVD article to lead with: "So F**king Rock Live (also known as So Fucking Rock Live) is a DVD...". I guess if you'd like to go further than that we'll need a few more editors to give their opinions here. All the best 'til then. - Pointillist (talk) 15:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds good enough for now. I made the parallel change on the main Tim Minchin page as well. Thanks for the input. 99.192.73.135 (talk) 15:43, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Ex pat?
[edit]I have added him to the Australian Expats living in the UK category, but now I'm not too sure. If he was born in the UK, he may not be an ex-pat, depends on how he sees his nationality. If anyone has strong views then please feel free to remove. Tony Corsini (talk) 13:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Casper or Caspar?
[edit]The Tim Minchin: interview published in Time Out on December 2, 2010 [[2]] refers to his son as Casper, but here he is Caspar. Is he Casper, as in the friendly ghost or Caspar, as in the wise man? Kooky2 (talk) 22:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Australian-British?
[edit]In what sense is Tim Australian-British? Both his parents are Australian. The fact that he was born in Britain is surely not decisive. --Agarpp (talk) 17:35, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- This source defines him as "Western Australian born". I've made the changes. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 17:08, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- The UK Government would most likely consider him British, given the information already in the article. Source --Topperfalkon (talk) 17:22, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Redirect for Canvas Bags
[edit]This article has a redirect for the terms "Canvas Bags". This is a bit weird to me. I was looking for the impact of the song. But it is not mentioned in the article (gave it a search) and I imagine there might be space on Wikipedia for an article on actual canvas bags. 83.179.55.57 (talk) 16:47, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Grammy nominee
[edit]Maybe is worthwhile mentioning that he was nomineted for a BEST MUSICAL THEATER ALBUM Grammy Award for Matilda.[1] --Ospination (talk) 16:54, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
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Nationality
[edit]He has described himself thus: "I am a UK born UK citizen" and added to people criticising him for voicing an opinion on Brexit: 'Suck my english balls'.
(Twitter June 2016, [reported in the Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/brexit-tim-minchin-twitter-comments-eu-referendum-criticism-australian-a7104466.html]
It seems fair enough then to add British-Austrlian to the lead. Certainly he is a UK citizen through being born in the UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.37.219 (talk) 13:46, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
- Then why British-Australian and not just British? 86.167.229.213 (talk) 14:59, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Usually...
[edit]Usually, if a Wikipedia subject is a homosexual the fact is mentioned. Why not in Minchin's case? 86.167.229.213 (talk) 14:57, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- If someone is homosexual and it's not mentioned, you probably wouldn't know they were homosexual, so I don't know how you can make such a claim. HiLo48 (talk) 17:52, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Why not in Minchin's case?
— The complete absence of any reliable sources to support the assertion. Mitch Ames (talk) 00:09, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Minchin's Law
[edit]Minchin's Law redirects to here, and yet there is no mention of "Minchin's Law" within the article. Either the article or the redirect ought to be changed. Nogoodbooks (talk) 21:48, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Apparently it is intended to link to a section on Alternative medicine (which no longer exists in the article). TRiG (talk) 00:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
What in the world?
[edit]"The tour extended into various other countries due to popular demand, with Minchin reprising the role in the world ..." Could this be phrased better ? Doug butler (talk) 11:45, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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