Talk:Three Sisters Tavern/Archive 1
Sources
[edit]http://www.katu.com/obits/112378374.html---Another Believer (Talk) 15:24, 14 July 2015 (UTC)http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/booze-and-strippers/Content?oid=10257---Another Believer (Talk) 15:31, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Valereee (talk · contribs) 00:15, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi! I'm Val, and I'd like to start this review. It seems to be clean of copyvios and stable. I think we can start with the criteria for GA. Another Believer, is this a good time for you? valereee (talk) 00:15, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, thanks for your time and willingness to help. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | I made a couple of minor changes, but the writing seems fine.
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | The lead section seems overdetailed as to the history of ownership. I don't think we really need all these names. I'd suggest something like In addition I think the history section ditto w/re: the names and nicknames of the entire family. The only names that are important are the original owners and the next owners, and we don't need all those middle names for people who aren't themselves notable. Thoughts?
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2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | ||
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | I've checked all the sources, and they support the assertions/quotes. It's not the NYT, but there are multiple mentions in gay-oriented publications, and the material isn't contentious, so I'm going to call them reliable. | |
2c. it contains no original research. | ||
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | The 'See also' section refers to the Burnside Triangle, which is apparently a gay-entertainment district? Was this bar in that area? If so, maybe a mention of that.
Questions that aren't answered: Was the bar just a typical neighborhood bar until 1997? Why the change to a gay bar? And why did it close in 2004?
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | Not sure about the numerous long quotes -- let's discuss whether they may comprise unnecessary detail.
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | ||
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | ||
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | ||
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | I'm marking this yes because it certainly meets the requirements for GA, but for future reference it would be great if there were an interior shot, if a creative commons one is out there.
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7. Overall assessment. | Got an opinion from an experienced reviewer, they agree it meets GA standard |
quickie stuff accomplished
[edit]Okay, I've done all the stuff I can do fast. The rest is stuff that will take me some time, but in the meantime we can discuss the comments I've made. valereee (talk) 14:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Sounds great, thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:40, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Requesting oversight
[edit]I've finished the review, but I'd like to get a quick second opinion from an experienced GA reviewer, as this is only my second GA review. I want to just confirm that I'm not passing an article that doesn't meet the critieria w/re: my concerns mentioned in 2b, 3a, and 3b. valereee (talk) 14:28, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- No problem! Thank you for taking time to review the article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:48, 15 August 2015 (UTC)