Talk:Thomas Worthington High School

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Investment Club

Recently, a few IP addresses have attempted to add a line for an "Investment Club" but have not provided a reference for that claim. On the other hand, the high schools website shows no indication that the club exists in its list of clubs found here and here (the only lists of clubs on the website). Additionally, a Google search for the club produces no hits. I'm not saying that the club doesn't exist but I'm finding that it's not officially recognized by the school and therefor, shouldn't be included in this article about the school. I have warned the two users and attempted to start a discussion on their talk page but haven't had any luck so far. I'm inviting those users to discuss the issue here.

To be clear, I have removed the information because the users have not verified the information by Citing sources. OlYeller21^Talktome 18:11, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Distinguished Alumni

Why are these getting taken down? This is where they were to begin with and I wasn't adding extraneous info, just the names and dates of graduation. These are accurate. Help again. Please... and thank you. Jenibynes (talk) 06:37, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They cited the WP Manual of Style in their edit summary but not much else. I assume they feel that the section is too large. It is quite large (at least at this point). Wikipedia's Manual of Style states at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Embedded lists how such lists should be created. That guideline has examples but it might List of Ohio State University people or here are some working examples. The OSU List of People is obviously very large and required it own article while the Upper Arlington section for Notable Alumni is what should be used here.

For smaller lists, a list of names is created, usually in alphabetical or chronological order (based on graduation date), and a short sentence is mentioned off to the side for each person. The bit about each person shouldn't go longer than a sentence or two. The list can also be created in prose, as mentioned at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Embedded lists but that's not commonly used for notable alumni sections. Most importantly, people are only included if they're notable meaning that if someone got the notable alumni award from your panel, they won't warrant a mention in the list if they're not notable according to WP's notability guideline, WP:NOTABILITY.

Personally, I wouldn't mind leaving them in the list if they received the award but aren't notable per WP:N but others might disagree and they have a legitimate argument. At the very least, I think the list should be one large list, not split up by year an award was given, with a sentence or two off to the right of each person's name. I'll take a crack at it in the article and we can discuss it here. OlYeller21^Talktome 16:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I made a dent but I have to run. The list is still large but we can split it into two columns in the future. I skimmed most of the descriptions about each person at the Worthington_City_Schools_Distinguished_Alumni article and it looks like most, if not all, may be notable. The lower half of the list is the portion that I was able to address. If we feel that it needs to be split up further, we should do it by field like in List of Ohio State University people. It needs more work but hopefully that gives and idea as to what a good direction would be to conform with Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Embedded lists. OlYeller21^Talktome 16:29, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. I'm learning! Slowly learning, but learning, nonetheless! Jenibynes (talk) 19:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Distinguished Alumni award.

an IP editor removed the copy on this without explanation; another editor replaced it. I have removed it again and here's why. Firstly it was an award of the district, not the school, so this isnt even the right article for it. Second it lasted for only three years out of the at least 24 that the school has existed (article isnt at all clear on the actual age of the school). Last, the only ref is a tripod webpage, about as unreliable a source as exists. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 19:31, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the effect of your edits (and mine). You did not remove the copy concerning the alumni awards by the district, and I did not restore it; I only restored the whitespace preceding it, the deletion of which was combined with the vandalistic edit immediately preceding it in the edits I reverted. If you intend to remove the copy, you still must do so. Dwpaul ^Talk 19:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Notable alumni

Is it standard procedure to delete all "citation needed" references? Also, why were you deleting ones with actual citations? Why do you not accept imdb as a reference? I kind of doubt that imdb is purged as a reference throughout wikipedia.

For example, you just deleted Rachael Harris, but on the Rachael Harris page, there is a cited reference to her graduation from WHS. this is not a correct deletion. Please check every page of every person you wish to delete, you don't need to cite everyone on the WHS page if they are cited on their own page.

This smacks of over zealousness. Please keep wikipedia a friendly place, and don't make damaging edits when there is clearly no vandalism going on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.141.56 (talk) 14:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Most of that list is unsourced material that has been noted as needing improvement for well over a year. I did a quick search to see if I could reference them, and if not removed the information that could very well be wrong. I could be wrong about imdb, but I believe anyone can upload the information there, so it is not a reliable source. As to your example, I did not remove Rachael Harris from the list. I added a reference for her, which you have since reverted. Every single person that was removed from the list did not have a reference to attending the school on their individual page, so I'm not sure what your point is about checking that. These 'damaging edits' are cleaning up unsourced material that nobody has been able to source for over a year. The information on the page should be correct. ZybthRanger^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:44, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

imdb is not a good reference, because it is anonymously edited, and so the information on there is not necessarily well-source. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:42, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The following individuals do not have sources supporting attending the school and have been flagged as unsourced for well over a year: Bob Atha, Brian Clark, and Susan Diol. Those individuals have been removed from the list. Burt Johnson and Annetta Johnson Saint-Gaudens do not have sources and have been tagged as citation needed. The sources for Colin Gawel and J.K. Simmons make no mention of them attending the school and have been tagged as citation needed. The imdb source for Jack Plotnick may or may not be a valid source. Once the relevant policy about it is found, either the citation needed needs to be removed or the source removed and the citation needed date updated. Every other individual in the list has a source supported that individual attending the school. ZybthRanger^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:45, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Currently only Burt Johnson, Annetta Johnson Saint-Gaudens, and J.K. Simmons are unsourced. Thank you to 155.188.123.23 for adding additional sources. ZybthRanger^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:28, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The applicable policy for why imdb.com is not a reliable source is WP:RS, which specifically mentions imdb.com as an example of an unreliable source because it is user edited. Other examples of the same criteria are YouTube and Wikipedia itself. Reliable sources have some sort of fact checking policy in place, which eliminates the majority of the internet except for books on Google books, and newspaper and magazine websites. The "refimprove" still be on the section. It is better and thanks for your work getting it there. But until all the entries have reliably referenced sources either in the bios or here, tying the individuals to the school, the references still need to be improved. John from Idegon (talk) 17:53, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A quick summary of what needs sources and could be re-added to the section with citations. Bob Atha, Brian Clark, and Susan Diol were all added to the list over one year ago and were all flagged as unsourced for over a year and have been removed from the list. Burt Johnson and Annetta Johnson Saint-Gaudens were both added to the list not quite a year ago and were flagged as unsourced for one day and have been removed from the list. If you find sources for any of these individuals attending the school, feel free to add them back to the list with the source. J.K. Simmons was added to the list two months ago and has been flagged as unsourced for one day. If you find a source for this individual attending the school, please add it into the list, otherwise the unsourced individual will eventually be removed from the list. ZybthRanger^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:18, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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