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Naval history and strategy	2,389	2,389
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Early political career	27	5,386
State Assemblyman	2,705	2,705
Presidential election of 1884	2,654	2,654
Cattle rancher in Dakota	4,056	4,056
Second marriage	1,533	1,533
Reentering public life	1,380	7,969
Civil Service Commission	2,332	2,332
New York City Police Commissioner	4,257	4,257
Emergence as national figure	71	15,290
Assistant Secretary of the Navy	2,895	2,895
War in Cuba	4,662	4,662
Governor of New York	4,445	4,445
Vice presidency (1901)	3,217	3,217
Presidency (1901–1909)	2,741	37,186
Domestic policies: The Square Deal	66	11,937
Trust busting and regulation	2,013	2,013
Coal strike	800	800
Prosecuted misconduct	935	935
Railroads	809	809
Pure food and drugs	1,213	1,213
Conservation	3,830	3,830
Business panic of 1907	2,271	2,271
Foreign policy	87	11,936
Japan	3,415	3,415
China	646	646
Europe	1,656	1,656
Latin America and the Panama Canal	6,132	6,132
Media	2,144	2,144
Election of 1904	3,084	3,084
Second term	2,627	5,344
Rhetoric of righteousness	2,717	2,717
Post-presidency (1909–1919)	34	47,704
Election of 1908	2,306	2,306
Africa and Europe (1909–1910)	5,486	5,486
Republican Party schism	1,472	9,452
Dispute over court power	1,591	1,591
Roosevelt's "New Nationalism"	2,945	2,945
Battling Taft over arbitration treaties	3,444	3,444
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Republican primaries and convention	4,303	4,303
Progressive Party	5,153	5,153
Attempted assassination	5,491	5,491
Democratic victory	1,807	1,807
South American expedition (1913–1914)	4,227	4,227
Final years	1,867	9,371
World War I	2,340	2,340
League of Nations	3,667	3,667
Final political activities	1,497	1,497
Death	2,958	2,958
Writer	5,112	5,112
Character and beliefs	8,765	8,765
Political positions	2,093	5,271
Foreign policy beliefs	3,178	3,178
Legacy	2,371	18,810
Persona and masculinity	4,313	4,313
Memorials and cultural depictions	10,283	10,283
Audiovisual media	1,843	1,843
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"promoted policies to the left"

Needs citation and expansion 2603:6011:5905:28A7:250E:BFBB:A3B5:CD34 (talk) 04:55, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The lead section, which includes these words, is a summary of the whole article. This content is expanded and sourced in the presidency ʻSecond termʻ subsection. —ADavidB 22:42, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for explaining what a lead section is!

"Roosevelt was elected to a full term in 1904 and promoted policies to the left, despite opposition from Republican leaders." is a vague, dubeous claim that needs clarification. Which policies exactly? Which Republican leaders were against such policies? 2603:6011:5905:28A7:250E:BFBB:A3B5:CD34 (talk) 16:38, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

dubious, my bad

2603:6011:5905:28A7:250E:BFBB:A3B5:CD34 (talk) 16:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The cited source is available online and linked from the article, with page 2 specifically identified. I accessed the source and its second page does not support this information. Iʻm not ready to declare the whole book does not, but a quick search did not find it. For now at least, I added a ʻfailed verificationʻ notice. Other editors are welcome to take further action. —ADavidB 19:39, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It still reads "Roosevelt was elected to a full term in 1904 and promoted policies to the left, despite opposition from Republican leaders." without any failed verification notice. This is a wildly dubious claim. Theodore was a progressive Republican. The current wording implies that he was on the Political Left, which he wasn't. 2603:6011:5905:28A7:88D3:4ED2:58DB:4448 (talk) 02:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's gone now. —ADavidB 10:37, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ty ty 2603:6011:5905:28A7:88D3:4ED2:58DB:4448 (talk) 17:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Different last words in James E. Amos's page

The last words of Theodore Roosevelt are different in his and James's page. 2804:14C:124:A20F:7DFD:304F:343C:9F28 (talk) 18:07, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not clear what his exact last words were, so the slight differences have been stated and sourced. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 21:34, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naming of children in infobox

I have twice tried to re-add the name of the children of the subject of this article to the infobox of this article, but twice it has been reverted. This is contrary to the guidelines followed on most Wikipedia pages, including those for, as far as I know, every other US president. For example, Donald Trump's article mentions each of his children in the infobox on his article: Donald Jr, Ivanka, Eric, Tiffany, and Barron. I personally think that if one has children who have their own Wikipedia articles, said children should be mentioned by name in the “children” section of the infobox of their parent’s Wikipedia article. Velociraptor888 (talk) 18:51, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no guideline requirement for inclusion - see WP:OTHERCONTENT. It would be redundant to |relatives=. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Template:infobox person/doc#Parameters, we see the following advice about the children parameter:

Typically the number of children (e.g., 3); only list names of independently notable or particularly relevant children. Names may be preceded by a number to show total children and avoid implying that named children are the only offspring. For multiple entries, use an inline list.

This does not require the names of the children, but it allows one to give the names of those that are indenpendently notable, as all six of Roosevelt's children are. I have argued in other contexts that one should be extremely careful about adding things to the infobox, per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE: The less information that an infobox contains, the more effectively it serves its purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance. It can be argued that the link given as the relatives parameter renders the names of the six children redundant, but it could also be argued that having the names right there makes it possible to identify them "at a glance". Bruce leverett (talk) 20:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does that mean that I should re-add the children’s names to the infobox then? Velociraptor888 (talk) 21:01, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not so fast. I was only trying to contribute to the discussion. I would certainly hope to hear from other editors. Bruce leverett (talk) 00:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "retired" to "retire" 2603:7000:7A00:3AE3:8534:7253:F82B:E3EF (talk) 00:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Good catch. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 00:40, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]