Talk:The Young and the Hopeless/GA1

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 17:24, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

• In the body of the article you say the lead single was "released to modern rock radio on August 13 that year" and in the infobox box you have it on September 9, 2002 (which was when the CD single was issued)
• Single 4 "Hold On" → September 2003 (you didn't went on detail regarding the date of release)
• Single 5 ""The Young & the Hopeless"/"Hold On"

 Done

Lead

• Prior to making a music video for "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous", drummer Chris Wilson joined the band; "Lifestyles" was released as a single in September. → makes me think lifestyles is a different single, needs to be re-written
• with subsequent tours of Japan → with subsequent shows in Japan,
• which were released as a joint single in January 2004. → the former was first released to alternative rock radio, and later as a joint single, with "The Young & the Hopeless", in January 2004.
• going triple platinum in the US → being certified three times platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)
• It was certified gold in France and Sweden, platinum in Australia and the UK, and double platinum in Canada. → It was certified platinum in Australia by the Australian Recording Industry Associaton (ARIA), in the UK by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) and in Canada by Music Canada (MC) + wikilink
• the latter winning → with the latter winning
• Should mention the "best lists" the album was included such as Rolling Stone and Rock Sound + mention the Alternative Press Music Awards for the album

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Background and recording

• did not sell as well as the label hoped and the group were nearly dropped from the label → did not sell as well as the label hoped, and the group were nearly dropped.
• he minor success of "Little Things",[2] coupled with appearing at Warped Tour[3] and touring alongside Blink-182 helped increase their popularity → year this took place?
• arranged by Valentine and Eric Campbell. The string session was engineered by Nate Kunkel. → arranged by Valentine and Eric Campbell and engineered by Nate Kunkel.

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Composition

• All of the songs on the album, except for "A New Beginning" and "The Anthem", were written by the Madden brothers. "A New Beginning" was written by Benji Madden and Valentine, and "The Anthem" was written by the Madden brothers and Goldfinger frontman John Feldmann. → All of the songs on the album were written by the Madden brothers, except for "A New Beginning" and "The Anthem". The former was written by Benji Madden and Valentine, and the latter was written by the Madden brothers and Goldfinger frontman John Feldmann.
• The producers used "Little Things → The movie producers used "Little Things", instead
• "Lust for Life" → year of release in between brackets

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Release

• On February 28, 2003, "The Anthem" was released as a CD single, which also includes → On February 28, 2003, "The Anthem" was released as a single. The CD single includes acoustic versions of
• during a two-day break in New Zealand → year?
• It premiered on Total Request Live on November 12 → year?
• "Hold On" and "The Young & the Hopeless" were released as a joint single on January 13, 2004. → Later, on January 13, 2004, the latter track and "The Young & the Hopeless" were released as a joint single
• A music video made for "The Young & the Hopeless" → The music video for "The Young & the Hopeless"
• The second paragraph from the Accolades and legacy section should be included here

 Done

Touring

• Quite repatative "went on tour" → try performed a leg in Japan, toured in the US (these are just examples), needs a wider range of vocabulary
• I made several changes

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Critical reception

• Try to have the reviews from positive to negative.
• Uncut → first paragraph
• Rolling Stone → second paragraph
• Entertainment Weekly, AllMusic → third paragraph
• The others are fine the way they are

 Done

Commercial performance

• I will fix this one as it is easier for me.
• by October 2004, three million. → source?

 Done

Accolades and legacy

• at the Teen Choice Awards. → at the 2003 Teen Choice Awards? + wikilink to the cerimony if possible
• at the MTV Music Awards;[54] the group eventually won the Viewer's Choice award. → at the MTV Music Awards, winnning the Viewer's Choice award. (and add the year of the cerimony)
• Kerrang! Award → year of the cerimony
• Four tracks from The Young and the Hopeless—"The Anthem" (by Million $ Mano and featured Hollywood Holt), "Girls & Boys" (by Ed Banger Allstars), "The Young & the Hopeless" (by Mr. Hahn) and "Hold On" (by the Academy Is...)—were remixed for inclusion on Good Charlotte's Greatest Remixes (2008) compilation. "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous", "The Anthem", "Girls & Boys", "The Young & the Hopeless" and "Hold On" were included on the band's Greatest Hits (2010) compilation → I don't see how this is part of the legacy, this should be on the release

 Done

Track listing

• Fine

Personnel

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space betwwen the personnel and the credits.

 Done

Weekly charts

• Add date for the Japanese Albums.
• Duplicate and with a source error

 Done

Year-end charts

• US Billboard 200 Year-end Chart → US Billboard 200
• Do the same for the other, it is redudent as we know it from the title.

 Done

Certifications

• Add accessdates

 Done

References

• MTV, AllMusic, punknews.org → not in italics
• The A.V. Club., New York Post. → wikilink, only once (there are others)
• I would not use Facebook as a source

I used it as it was the label's (Enjoy the Ride Records) own Facebook page, and since there isn't an otherwise reliable source available for the info. Yeepsi (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

See here 1, seems a reliable source to me. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:16, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done

External links

• Fine

Overall

• You can now address the issues now. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:44, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Done. Yeepsi (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Fixed the Japanese chart cite error. Yeepsi (talk) 16:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

@Yeepsi: I made several changes, see if you are ok with them. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

They're all good with me. Added the Modern Vinyl ref. Yeepsi (talk)