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Original Source of Melody

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Wasn't the tune for this song from a classical piano piece? It sounds like Chopin, but I can't quite place it. Ken Burch02:24, 14 April 2010

The verse sounds more like #9 Dream by John Lennon. 98.221.141.21 (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No to both Chopin and John Lennon. The source for the tune itself was written by Caravelli who does have a Wikipedia page. jose cantos lopes (Brazilian Portuguese) uploaded the song to YouTube. It may be on other social websites as well. Caravelli had an Italian father and a French mother and lived almost his entire life in France. His birthname was Claude Vasori. He adopted the Caravelli name because of the Caravelle Aerospatiale twin jet airplane. You should be able to find the song on YouTube with this search string: "caravelli winner takes it all jose cantos lopes". hhhobbit (talk) 05:55, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Divorce Connection Rumours

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As someone who was a neighbour of the four at the time on the Stockholm suburb island of Lidingö I can almost categorically state that the allegation this song's lyrics had something to do with Björn and Agneta's breakup are not only anachronistic but totally false. Knowing Me Knowing You was recorded at the time of their breakup which was the first of the two breakups; Björn made it very clear this song was a collaborative effort between Agneta and himself in terms of lyrics on that breakup. Whilst Benny and Frida lasted only a bit longer - and there you have The Winner Takes It All. I don't remember what happened to Frida after that but I do remember what happened to Benny - where he moved, who he moved with, who was calling his name, etc as narrated in the song. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.5.14.123 (talk) 01:32:29, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

This is incorrect! Knowing Me, Knowing You was written and recorded in March 1976 and for sure was not written during this couple's break-up, as that happened two and a half year later: in December 1978. Björn has never claimed Agnetha had anything to do with 'collaborating' with him on the lyrics of 'Knowing Me, Knowing You', as these lyrics were written with manager Stig Andersson. Benny Andersson and Anni-Frid Lyngstad married in 1978 and split up in January 1981, and it has never been claimed the lyrics for 'The Winner Takes It All' has anything to do with their marriage or break-up as you are hinting. At the time of recording this song, Benny and Frida were still together; at the time of the filming of the video of the song, one of the reasons it was filmed on the West Coast of Sweden was that Benny and Frida were on holiday there in their yacht. So, if you were a 'neighbour' once, your curiosity certainly made up some entirely wrong stories.

Agnetha has stated in almost every interview where this topic comes up that she was no 'loser' in their divorce, and in an interview with Terry Wogan on BBC in 1987, she comments on the divorce that it had nothing to do with the stress around ABBA: "It would have happened anyway". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.117.246.40 (talk) 05:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Winner Takes It All.jpg

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Release date

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Are you sure it was released in July? I thought it was released in the fall in the US about 1 to 2 months before the album.

Release date

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Are you sure it was released in July? I thought it was released in the fall in the US about 1 to 2 months before the album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.239.250.100 (talk) 07:37, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IP editor

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I suggest an editor with knowledge on the subject check the edits by 190.196.78.14 (talk · contribs). He/she is a Chile-based editor using multiple IPs (for more see here). His/Her edits are usually (although not always) disruptive, changing dates or adding unsourced and/or unverifiable information. Regards. --Urbanoc (talk) 16:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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slightly absurd

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I took this out of the article. I really don't think we need to mention individual plays of this song...--345Kai (talk) 02:39, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On 24 January 1982, "The Winner Takes It All" was used during the closing credits of the post game show of Super Bowl XVI between the San Francisco 49ers and the Cincinnati Bengals.
Independent of that particular event/sentence the article could use a popular culture/notable covers/legacy section.--Kmhkmh (talk) 02:50, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

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Charts

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Many of the links in the Charts section do NOT show any chart positions. Just prefer to official sites such as for UK, US and Germany

In addition to countries with "citation required" there are others such as France, Italy and Spain that don't provide chart info for this song. Coachtripfan (talk) 08:20, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Uk sales

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950,000

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/abbas-official-top-20-biggest-songs__26113/ Coachtripfan (talk) 07:32, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"El ganador se lleva todo" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect El ganador se lleva todo has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 19 § El ganador se lleva todo until a consensus is reached. ArcticSeeress (talk) 10:36, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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