Talk:The Unconquered (1940 play)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 16:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to offer a review, though I may be fairly slow.

"Timoshenko brings" Stephen?

His first name is Stepan (I might not have noticed that I got it wrong if you hadn't mentioned him), but he is mostly referred to by his last name in the script. This is similar to most of the other supporting characters like Morozov and Syerov, whereas the main characters are typically referred to by first name in the script. I've used each character's most common designation in the summary.

"She declares she is proud that she did what was necessary to save Leo's life" Save his life from the TB, or the firing squad? It's not clear that he has been saved from the firing squad.

Clarified.

"After Andrei commits suicide" You haven't said that he does! How about "Andrei subsequently commits suicide, after which" or something?

Revised.

Can I suggest moving the Craig/Leontovich images down? It's funny to show a picture of Leontovich long before she's mentioned.

Moved to the History section.

"which she attributed to her background with the" The she is ambiguous, here. I assume you mean Rand, but Leontovich was the last person mentioned.

Clarified.

I think the second paragraph of "History" should make clear that The Unconquered was the name given to the adaptation of We the Living.

Good point, but I've placed it at the end of the third paragraph, because the title change didn't happen until later, after Abbott took on the production.

Could you identify the actors and characters in the infobox image?

Added actor names, but with character names also it seemed overlong.

Looks great on a first read-through. I want to spend some time looking into the sources and images. Josh Milburn (talk) 16:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing. Updated, with comments added above. --RL0919 (talk) 19:06, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No further comments. I thought there would be more literature out there, but it looks like this is a comparatively minor part of Rand's work, and all the images look fine. (One tiny thing: Is the publisher not Duckworth Overlook, rather than Overlook Duckworth?) I'm promoting now. Josh Milburn (talk) 18:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Winter of 1924

Was that in January 1924? December 1924? I presume it was not in June 1924, which was the winter in Australia and South Africa. It would really be much better to use a month. --The Huhsz (talk) 10:51, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@The Huhsz: If this were a real-world event, I would agree. However, this is the plot summary for a work of fiction, and the author's stage directions only state the season and year. The next scene is "Spring of 1924", so presumably the first scene is January, February, or maybe March. (That's if the scenes are presented in straight chronological order, which they pretty clearly are, but technically that's an interpretation.) I don't know of any basis to pick a specific month even as an inference, much less as a sourced statement. --RL0919 (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hope y'all agree with my MOS:SEASON tweak. 73.69.184.160 (talk) 15:58, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]