Talk:The Sound (The 1975 song)

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Review: April 4, 2021. (Reviewed version).

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Sound (song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 15:32, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't done a GA review in a long time so lets go. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:32, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Needs alt text Done

Lead

nabashed → "unabashed"
Healy presented the song to One Direction, who declined, and the 1975 recorded it for themselves. → Healy first presented the song to One Direction, who declined, so the band decided to recorded it.
and incorporates aspects of dance-pop, electropop, new wave, funk, R&B, pop-gospel and indie pop. → Remove it, the lead should summarize the entire article and not go on this much detail.

Partly done Influences/elements are a critical aspect of a song's composition. However I recognize that there were too many, I've cut it down to three. Giacobbe ^talk 19:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good work. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:27, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Giacobbe ^talk 21:06, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Upon release, "The Sound" was met with widespread acclaim from contemporary music critics, many of whom deemed it a standout from I Like It When You Sleep, for You Are So Beautiful yet So Unaware of It. Specific praise was given to the production, lyrics and the 1975's embrace of pop music. → include this on the second paragraph
The song later appeared on numerous year-end and decade-end lists. → name some such as Rolling Stone, Time and Pitchfork. Remove the word "later"
reached the top 50 in Belgium → see below

Done

Background and development

The 1975 released their eponymous debut studio album in September 2013 to critical and commercial success. → their debut was met with general favorable reviews, "critical success" seems a bit over the top.
Three sentences that lead no where regarding this article, only talking about their first albums and single.
The first paragraph should start "In June 2015, the 1975..."
The album was released in February 2016 and includes "The Sound" → I believe you don't need to say something like this.
This first paragraph will have two sentences, I suggest to merge it with the last of this section.

As it was not a standalone single, the brief background context for its parent album is important for readers not familiar with the song. The same background info is also included on two other GA's from the same album. Giacobbe ^talk 19:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Its parent album? The first pagraph only talks about the debut album. I guess you could add that info on the lead single of the second album...but the third? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since the song was released prior to the album, it's just telling readers the events leading up to it. Essentially it explains that The 1975 was released, followed by "The Sound", and then their second album was released the following month. I reworded it, since without having the single release in there, it lacked context. I also included your suggestions. Giacobbe ^talk 21:05, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is some misscomunition, those events are important. My issue is with the first three sentences that regard the debut album and their "radio staple". I don't understnd what they are doing here. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:38, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Okay, I removed those parts. Giacobbe ^talk 21:52, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Music and lyrics

and has a length of four minutes and eight seconds (4:08) → unneccesary detail
According to sheet music → According to the sheet music
Eric Hampton → Erin Hampton
said it connects the previous singles → more detail, how?

Done

Critical reception

TS said it has become → Who is TS?
convince anyone that this is something you need to experience → what does this means?
lauding, lauded... → quite repetitive, try "praised, flatter..." instead of "laud" in some of the sentences

Done

Accolades

Fine

Commercial performance

In the 1975's native United Kingdom → remove, you already said on the lead they are from the UK
denoting sales of over 600,000 units → I don't like the "sales" here as streaming figures are also included
number 28 in Belgium → Ultratip is like Bubbling Under Hot 100 Singles, so fix the text accordingly.
Numbers below ten should be spelled
number 21 on the Billboard Alternative Airplay chart → see below
In the Asia-Pacific region → You don't mention any asiatic countries in the sentence, on the follow up you specify Japan

The Asia-Pacific region encompasses both East Asia and Oceania, so all three countries are part of it. Giacobbe ^talk 19:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My bad I completly missread it. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:39, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Music video

There are four references in a row, they clug up the text quite a bit and if I'm looking to see if the sources back up the sentence I'm having a quite some trouble. Maximum three references in a row.

Done

Credits and personnel

Fine

Charts

The song charted on Hot Rock & Alternative Songs, so remove Alternative Airplay per Wikipedia:Record charts#Billboard charts
I have some doubts regadig the inclusion of Japan Hot Overseas and I might need a second opinion on it.

I have no idea about charts. I pretty much just format what was existing before the overhaul. Giacobbe ^talk 19:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Use this wikilink if you have doubts regarding which charts you can and can't use. Record charts. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:31, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Thanks for the tip! Have you found out anything about the Japan Overseas? Giacobbe ^talk 21:05, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Waiting on it. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:33, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: I'm just going to remove it for now. I saw you posted a query on the Record Charts talk page. I'll keep an eye out for a response to see whether I should re-add it. Giacobbe ^talk 21:57, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Year-end charts

The YDC for the UK redirects me for 2020 and not 2016

Done

Certifications

Add its gold certification in australia in 2018.

Good catch! Giacobbe ^talk 19:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done

References

I Would advise you to archive everylink.

The archive tool hates me right now, I've been trying to do this since last night. As soon as it's back online, I'll get them archived Giacobbe ^talk 19:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:25, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All reliable
Hampton, Eric → Hampton, Erin

Done

External links

Fix this I can't access the audio

I think this may be an issue on your end. I checked and have been able to access the link from my computer, tablet, and phone. Giacobbe ^talk 19:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This one works. Perhaps the one you provided only works in some countries? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:25, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's strange, the one you provided says "Video Unavailable". Just can't win, haha. Giacobbe ^talk 20:50, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just remove the audio, there is already a link for the video, more than enough. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:34, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Overall

I noticed a repetition of the vocabulary mainly regarding the word "song" and "track". Try single and recording in some instances.
Copyvio score is high at 47.1% and 42.9%; paraphrase the quote "pure pop euphoria, seamlessly weaving together the [1990s] and the present in a bubblegum world brimming with ease and happiness" from Atwwod and "Arst Desk". I know the title of the album doesn't help.

This is fine since the copyvio strike comes from the album title. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:24, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done

You can now address the issues, I will try to find more info on the overseas chart. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:57, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Let me know if you find anything! Giacobbe ^talk 19:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@(CA)Giacobbe: left you some comments. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:29, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@(CA)Giacobbe: I will check everything in the meantime. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:26, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Sounds good. Giacobbe ^talk 23:40, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@(CA)Giacobbe: I made some small changes see if you are ok with those. I just need to check a couple more stuff. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Yeah it looks good! Appreciate the help man

Giacobbe ^talk 12:10, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]