Talk:The Red Dragon (magazine)

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Review: April 23, 2020. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from The Red Dragon (magazine) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 March 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that The Red Dragon magazine was intended to "make known to the greater English world the characteristics and aims of the Welsh people and the beauties of their language and literature"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Red Dragon (magazine).

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B-class assessment

I assessed the article as B class after checking it against the criteria:

The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations.
The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies.
The article has a defined structure.
The article is reasonably well-written.
The article contains supporting materials where appropriate.
The article presents its content in an appropriately understandable way.

However, as I revised the article to bring it to this stage I would welcome other editors' thoughts please. Thanks. ~ RLO1729^💬 14:03, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Red Dragon (magazine)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 03:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will take this. Posting my comments within a week. Cheers, Sainsf (talk · contribs) 03:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Citations are not needed in lead (unless the claim is a bit controversial) and all facts there should be in main text

MOS:LEADCITE indicates direct quotations should be cited. ~ RLO1729^💬

Oh yes, I forgot there were direct quotes. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 11:00, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The lead can be expanded by a few more lines to give a complete picture of the topic. Definitely mention the founding editor (a bit of his aims is already mentioned), who took over from him later and a bit on the reactions and legacy after it was closed down (The magazine continues to be valuable to modern scholars This looks especially relevant to me)

Revised. ~ RLO1729^💬

Charles Wilkins (of Merthyr Tydfil) Do we need to mention the location right here (seems to give me an impression there are multiple Wilkins the readers might confuse)? We do talk about it a few lines later, where it seems more appropriate

Revised. ~ RLO1729^💬

The magazine was printed in Cardiff by Daniel Owen & Company.[11][2] Not a must, but it is preferable to write the refs in a numerical order.

Revised. ~ RLO1729^💬

the magazine featured a number of women authors Any prominent names here?

Revised. ~ RLO1729^💬

If you look at the 3rd, 4th and 5th paras of History, they could really be separated into another section that focuses on the publications and reviews for the magazine. The 6th can stay in History. I can't think of a perfect name for the new section, but it will bring a lot of clarity to the text. I leave this to you, but I strongly recommend doing this.

I take your point but found it became disruptive to the narrative to separate some paragraphs between sections. As an alternative, I've revised the section title to better indicate the content of the section. ~ RLO1729^💬

"At its peak it commanded for the first time the attention of a newly recognised audience for a Welsh periodical in English." You don't mention where this quote came from

The modern scholar is now attributed explicitly. ~ RLO1729^💬

Refs 9 and 16 could do with |trans-title= and |language= parameters (always translate titles in foreign languages)

Added lang template and deleted duplicate citation. ~ RLO1729^💬

I'm unable to see the changes.. could you add a diff? Sainsf (talk · contribs) 11:00, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is here. Hovering over citation [9] in the article also brings up a Welsh language indicator pop-up. ~ RLO1729^💬 11:13, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think I see the source of the confusion. Ap Ffarmwr is not the title but the author's bardic name so should not need translation. ~ RLO1729^💬 11:17, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank, I see now. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 16:38, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's all. No copyvio, dablink, duplink, external link issues found. It was a pleasure reading this :) Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:02, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Sainsf, much appreciated. ~ RLO1729^💬 10:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well then, ready for promotion :) Congrats on another GA and keep up the awesome work! Sainsf (talk · contribs) 16:38, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]