Talk:The ReVe Festival 2022 – Feel My Rhythm

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I initially created this article at The ReVe Festival 2022: Feel My Rhythm. Just under ten minutes later, ReVeluv02 copied the content they had been working on into The ReVe Festival 2022 – Feel My Rhythm. I reverted them and asked them to move their content to the original version of the article, which they did. (I have my concerns about some of the material they copied over, but that has mostly been fixed and beyond the scope of this thread.)

As I said on ReVeluv02's talk page, on Wikipedia we generally default to a colon in article titles if sources are unclear on what punctuation to use in a title (a hyphen, an en dash, or a colon). That being said, more sources appear to use a hyphen and on Wikipedia, we would translate that to an en dash, so I went ahead and moved the articles around in lieu of a move request from either @Paper9oll: or @ReVeluv02:. Just for clarity: I would ordinarily have just worked on the article in my userspace and moved it over a redirect anyway, but I defaulted to the colon space, which had not yet been created. Ss112 07:03, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ss112 The current title is correct (as per the description from the latest Instagram post on Red Velvet official account. Latest news report from Korean media[1] uses the same styling as offical sources) with just a subtle difference for the dash/hyphen since we need to comply with WP:ENDASH. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 07:10, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm aware an en dash is used instead of hyphens in titles. Because the use seemed inconsistent among sources, from what I was reading on Twitter, and how the title is printed on its teaser posters, I decided to follow MOS:TITLEPUNCT. Ss112 12:38, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

A reminder that one place where specific punctuation will matter is if/when the EP receives certifications, likely by KMCA. The format for certifications tables requires the exact punctuation used by the body certifying it. Aside from that, MOS:TITLEPUNCT feels appropriate. 41matt14 (talk) 15:59, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Special EP?

@User:Ss112 @User:ReVeluv02 Is it "fifth special extended play" or "seventh extended play"? I previously have to add "Marketed as sixth mini-album" on Queendom (EP) to stop the constant disruptive editing by the same IP which is refused to listen on that article and also on this article. In addition to Queendom, I also have to apply make-shift solution to The Red Summer (EP), Summer Magic (EP), The ReVe Festival: Day 1, The ReVe Festival: Day 2 by indicated them as "special extended play" from first to fourth, respectively, just to stop the nonsense. However, this time round, I would like some opinions if it's correct to indicated it as "special extended play" and also having a permanent rather than make-shift solution to the other four articles. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:29, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Paper9oll! Sorry for the late response. I'mt still not really sure since there are no sources stating what kind of EP it is. I tried to find on various sources about The ReVe Festival 2022 – Feel My Rhythm referred to as a "special" EP, however I find none. From what I previously remember, I saw that The Red Summer (EP) and Summer Magic (EP) are the ones marketed and labelled as "special" EP since it was released especially for summer. Also Korean shops and music streaming sites used sixth mini album for marketing Queendom making The ReVe Festival: Day 1 and The ReVe Festival: Day 2 both a special EPs. There is a big chance though that this will be marketed as a special EP considering it is part of the ReVe Festival. It was marketed as a mini album though. [2]). Thank you! ReVeluv02 (talk) 23:10, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

@ReVeluv02 No worries. Yes there were no sources referring this release as "special" EP hence I also feel it should be referred to "seventh extended play" instead given that secondary news sources is referring it as "mini-album" which we "translated" (kind of) to EP on English Wikipedia. Fyi, this article as of this comment is using "fifth special extended play", which is changed by that IP, please help to revert/undo it. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 01:35, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Paper9oll! I did saw the IP who kept changing the lead. I did revert/undo the article to seventh extended play, however, it may change again because of that IP user. Is there a way for you to protect/lock this article for edits to users who are not signed-in or have met a specific criteria for editing? Or even blocking the IP user itself from Wikipedia? Thank you! :) ReVeluv02 (talk) 01:50, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

@ReVeluv02 Thanks you for the revert. Yes article can be protected by requesting via WP:RPP. Whereas for blocking (requested via WP:AIV), the IP has to be warned at least 4 times in most circumstances but is also up to admin to decide if it's worth blocking (sometimes you may feel it's worth blocking but if you're out of luck then the requesting at AIV would be removed by bot after a few hours if no active admin is willing to block it). — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 01:58, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Even if it were a "special" EP—which some editors were calling Exo's most recent EP as well—I probably wouldn't use this wording as it just bloats the counts in the lead. As it is, I'm a little unsure about the use of Template:Abbr. I feel like this is a misuse of that template (as it's not an abbreviation of the underlined text) and should probably be replaced with a footnote (Template:Efn-ua). Ss112 12:42, 17 March 2022 (UTC)