Talk:The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
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Improving the article
[edit]This article still needs extensive cleanup. It would be great to see it happen. Ransdy (talk) 02:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello Folks, I am attempting to flesh out the woefully under-represented Ultraworld stub. It was a seminal ambient-house, breakthrough commercial electronic album and a formative influence on my musical character. The effort is not all disserving, its also my final-project component for Wayne Marshalls excellent Harvard Extension School musie145 class --Ezi 21:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
More content and a suggested structure. I've remarked out unpopulated topics to make for a more pleasing presentation currrently. You can edit the page to see the suggested topics. I also built the US track Listings and Personnel sections. I still need to cross-reference these new areas. --Ezi 00:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay, fleshed out more of the structure and started on the wiki links. I'm not using an academic citation style in favour of wikipedia links. I hope its received well. I've covered a lot of the history and logistics behind the album. I now hope to start on the critical/interpretative/contextual content. --Ezi 22:47, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- You really must cite your sources, because if the article is to improve at a later date to Featured Article status they are mandatory. If you don't do it now, you'll be setting yourself or future editors up for a headache later on when they try to find out what sources you have used. Please have a look at The KLF (and indeed that other ambient classic Chill Out) to see how it can be done. Great work though and good to see this important album getting the attention it deserves. --kingboyk 17:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Will do. I intend to move the cursory citations in a separate section to the Featured Article footnote style. --Ezi 20:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm done, hopefully this is enough for class. I'll be back to provide more thought on the themes and structure but i've exhausted my current train of thought. --Ezi 03:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow. Someone removed the stub designation. I like it! --Ezi 15:06, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey, great work. This is looking like a very serious article now. --kingboyk 18:26, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Fixed some typos and minor mistakes (Discreet Music, not Useful Music), and fleshed it out a little. I also removed a reference to an Orb track that doesn't seem to exist, and tried to stress the point that the only permanent member of The Orb is really Alex Paterson. --Kaini 03:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed the entire "Themes and Structure" section is absurdly biased? The tone too overtly conveys the emotions of the author rather than simply stating the information, and lines like "the journey...occurs in stages but only the title of the track reveals the map" are purposely more poetic than informative. And does anyone buy the argument that record stores actually refused to stock the album because it made fun of previous double albums because apparently Americans hold them in such reverence? There's no citation for this, so I assume it's speculation, and we can assume it was the record company, rather than record store clerks, as we all know how much power they have over multinational record companies (which is cursorily mentioned at most). Sentences like "forced Paterson to compromise the integrity of the album" are clearly opinion rather than fact. This section really needs to be cleaned up...I'm sure we all like the music, but that's not what Wikipedia's about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.35.154.51 (talk) 08:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Alright, "Themes and Structure" de-purple-prosed. Aside: Whats the point in criticising an entry and not attempting/suggesting an edit at all? --Ezi (talk) 01:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Four sides?
[edit]How can a double CD album have four sides? As far as I can see, a vinyl version was not even released. Can someone clarify on this? D-b (talk) 12:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Its an ode to the double-album convention, each record would have a side. (Ezi (talk) 20:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)).
- An ode by The Orb, or by the person who added the information to the article? If the former, the article needs to clarify this. If the latter, the references to 'sides' shouldn't be here at all. — Smjg (talk) 16:33, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it was all just a misunderstanding anyway. The album was released on vinyl. And on cassette too (with same four sides as the vinyl). --Walnuts go kapow (talk) 16:42, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- I see. But if that's the case, why does the 'Release history' section show only CD and "CS", whatever that is? — Smjg (talk) 20:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- CS is generally shorthand for cassette on music articles. Ss112 23:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- I see. But if that's the case, why does the 'Release history' section show only CD and "CS", whatever that is? — Smjg (talk) 20:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it was all just a misunderstanding anyway. The album was released on vinyl. And on cassette too (with same four sides as the vinyl). --Walnuts go kapow (talk) 16:42, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Inspiration? or not?
[edit]- Trevor Hoyle....his Blakes 7 episode ‘Ultraworld’ inspired the album, The Orb’s Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld.
Reissue
[edit]RSD 2016. 4 vinyl reissue. Needs to be added. 87.195.2.50 (talk) 07:33, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
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