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Do we include this?

[1] This is a spoiler of course for the season, but it is also a RS (Deadline Hollywood). Clearly after this episode airs, we should use this source to include it, but the question is if we should include it now. (Also be aware of other editors trying to add it now). This involves an early named reveal and an event that happens as a result. --Masem (t) 01:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've at least cleaned up the citation for now, whether it is removed for the time being or not.

I'm sure others might disagree, but I'd say to leave it in, despite the season not airing as of yet. There is of course WP:SPOILER, but I'd say it's fine to keep in already considering how: A) It's not some random website running the story, and, B) Many others have already joined in (TVLine, TheWrap, NY Daily News, etc.) so at this point it's likely already noteworthy to include.

Of course, considering who the person spoiled is, I'd be surprised if there's not vandalism/page protection on this article within the next week or so... Magitroopa (talk) 02:26, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Rudolph" vs "Rudy"

I don't understand why we're referring to him as "Rudolph". By that logic, should we refer to the winner of season 1 Faheem Najm? Should we call the third place runner-up of season three "Shad Moss"? I mean, last season, I suggested calling the people inside the Beach Ball "Alana 'Honey Boo Boo Child' Thompson" and "'Mama' June Shannon", but was struck down. How is this different? - Jasonbres (talk) 21:54, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They should be referred to as they are credited (which will likely be figured out for Giuliani sometime next month). For example, the Beach Ball example you gave, they were credited as 'Honey Boo Boo & Mama June', thus, the way they are credited on the season 6 article. Magitroopa (talk) 01:27, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, we don't have the episode yet, so we should go by the most common name, which is "Rudy". If the episode changes that, we can change that. --Masem (t) 01:33, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t get this either, the source that’s provided calls him Rudy not Rudolph. It’s kinda random that it was changed to Rudolph all of a sudden for no apparent reason SecondLooneyaccount (talk)

Hello

Can someone make the costumes table visible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.108.240.244 (talk) 18:34, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is WP:NOHURRY to get a table up. It's fine the way it currently is, as a MOS:PROSE. A table can be made as the premiere gets closer. Right now, it's not necessary, nor would it give any information apart from the costume names. Magitroopa (talk) 19:19, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you going to do the table after the sneak peak? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.108.240.244 (talk) 20:11, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Episode 2

Why do the same masks that perform in episode 1, perform in episode 2 too if it's round 1 again and not round 2 for that team? 31.4.149.150 (talk) 12:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a discussion forum. Icoll52 (talk) 06:08, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Duff Goldman and Christie Brinkley Occupation

Hey Magitroopa and Dmargi, Why do some celebrities on the masked singer elimination tables have one occupation while others have two occupations? DJBrimstorm (talk) 17:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)DJBrimstorm (talk • contribs) 17:10, 17 April 2022[reply]

We go by how the on-show chevron credits them at the unmasking. Sometime its a single occupation, sometimes its two. --Masem (t) 19:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What the heck are the on-show chevron credits DJBrimstorm (talk) 22:45, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Its the text that appears on screen right after they are unmasked. --Masem (t) 22:59, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well then why would you put Christie Brinkley as Model and not Model/actor and Duff Goldman as Pastry chef and not Celebrity Pastry chef? DJBrimstorm (talk) 23:23, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It isnt necessary to list everything a figure has done, nor label them as a celebrity, which is a given for all of them. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 20:03, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You kept one of my edits, but what I want to know is why? I thought you hated my disruptive edits? I just said my edits were disruptive. DJBrimstorm (talk) 16:27, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To use Kristy Alley as an example, her unmasked (via this clip has her description come up as "Golden Globe winning actress". For Wikipedia, the "Golden Globe winning" part is fluff and not essential so we ignore that, and because we try to avoid gendered terms, we switch "actress" for "actor" but add nothing else. On the other hand for Jennifer Holliday (Miss Teddy), the text from this cclip says "Grammy and Tony winning singer/actress", so applying the same logic, we reduce it to "singer/actor". That's the only case, so far this season, of where the profession they give is split like that. --Masem (t) 16:36, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What about Penn and teller being magicians and comedians? And then what celebrity revealed on The Masked Singer Season 7 will have a split occupation other than Jennifer Holliday? DJBrimstorm (talk) 20:00, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they need to be listed as "Magicians/comedians" per the onscreen text.But we have no idea what the show will use for the other ones. --Masem (t) 20:05, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Firefly, Ringmaster, and Prince win their rounds

Why did they win their perspective round? When they were safe and through to the final, I don't get it?DJBrimstorm (talk) 13:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal for new results/contestants table

Hey! So I’m not sure if this is necessary, but I feel the way the tables are formatted now can be a bit confusing. Wouldn’t it be better to split the contestants and results tables? Similar to how it is done with Survivor (American TV series) or more specifically with a season article, Survivor: Winners at War. I feel splitting the contestants into their own overview table would make this article easier to read. I have a proposal for how this could be done, for this article at least as an example.

Note: I had to remove references so I wouldn’t break the talk page.

Any thoughts? SecondLooneyaccount (talk)

Contestants

The season features 15 contestants split into three teams known as "The Good", "The Bad", and "The Cuddly". This is the first season since the fourth season not to feature wild card contestants, but also being the first to feature teams.

"Hydra" is the first three-headed costume in the series while also sporting three legs due to its portrayers as well as featuring smoke-breathing features and a large size. "Cyclops" is the largest costume to date.

The celebrities who competed in the seventh season of The Masked Singer, pictured in order of elimination (L–R)

*The Masked Singer* season 7 contestants
Team	Stage name	Identity	Occupation(s)	Overall Results
Team	Stage name	Identity	Occupation(s)	First Episode	Last Episode	Finish
Good	Firefly	Teyana Taylor	Singer/songwriter	1	11	WINNER
Good	Ringmaster	Hayley Orrantia	Actor/singer	4	11	RUNNER-UP
Good	Prince	Cheyenne Jackson	Actor/singer	7	11	THIRD PLACE
Bad	Queen Cobras	En Vogue	R&B Group	7	9	Eliminated
Cuddly	Space Bunny	Shaggy	Singer	7	9	Eliminated
Cuddly	Baby Mammoth	Kirstie Alley	Actor	7	8	Eliminated
Bad	Jack in the Box	Rudy Giuliani	Politician	7	7	Eliminated
Cuddly	Miss Teddy	Jennifer Holliday	Singer/actor	4	6	Eliminated
Good	Armadillo	Duane Chapman	TV personality	4	6	Eliminated
Bad	Hydra	Penn & Teller	Magicians/comedians	4	5	Eliminated
Cuddly	Lemur	Christie Brinkley	Model/actor	4	4	Eliminated
Cuddly	Thingamabob	Jordan Mailata	NFL player	1	3	Eliminated
Bad	Cyclops	Jorge Garcia	Actor	1	3	Eliminated
Bad	Ram	Joe Buck	Sportscaster	1	2	Eliminated
Good	McTerrier	Duff Goldman	Pastry chef	1	1	Eliminated

Results table

*The Masked Singer* season 7 results
Contestant (stage name - identity)		Ep1.	Ep2.	Ep3.	Ep4.	Ep5.	Ep6.	Ep7.	Ep8.	Ep9.	Ep11.
Contestant (stage name - identity)		Round 1			Round 2			Round 3			Ep11.
G	Firefly (Teyana Taylor)	SAFE	RISK	WIN							WINNER
G	Ringmaster (Hayley Orrantia)				SAFE	SAFE	WIN				RUNNER-UP
G	Prince (Cheyenne Jackson)							SAFE	SAFE	WIN	THIRD
B	Queen Cobras (En Vogue)							SAFE	SAFE	OUT
C	Space Bunny (Shaggy)							SAFE	RISK	OUT
C	Baby Mammoth (Kirstie Alley)							SAFE	OUT
B	Jack in the Box (Rudy Giuliani)							OUT
C	Miss Teddy (Jennifer Holliday)				SAFE	SAFE	OUT
G	Armadillo (Duane Chapman)				SAFE	RISK	OUT
B	Hydra (Penn & Teller)				SAFE	OUT
C	Lemur (Christie Brinkley)				OUT
C	Thingamabob (Jordan Mailata)	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
B	Cyclops (Jorge Garcia)	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
B	Ram (Joe Buck)	SAFE	OUT
G	McTerrier (Duff Goldman)	OUT

G The masked singer is on Team Good.
B The masked singer is on Team Bad.
C The masked singer is on Team Cuddly.
WIN The masked singer won their respective round and moved on to the finale.
SAFE The masked singer was safe from elimination.
RISK The masked singer was in the bottom two, but was not eliminated.
OUT The masked singer was eliminated from the competition and unmasked upon their elimination.
The masked singer did not perform.

I'd say no myself, though I'd appreciate others' thoughts/comments on the matter. However:

A. What makes this all of a sudden 'confusing' after using the same formatting of tables for 3 years/7 seasons?
B. Absolutely not splitting into two tables/including both tables- the tables repeat the exact same information as each other, apart from one including the 'Occupation(s)' column/information and the other not including it. Other than that, they repeat the same exact information, just in a different style/formatting.
- ...as opposed to the Survivor: WaW article you've mentioned, where the 3 tables are the general contestants table, challenge winners/eliminations, and voting history. Most of the repeated information within those 3 tables are just (first) names and tribes, which is perfectly fine given that information corresponds with the main information the table is showing.
C. Even just not including your first table example, the reformatting of the current table is much larger than the current version- which definitely doesn't need to happen.

Again, I hope others can share their own thoughts on this, but I'd say unless it were to be fixing MOS violations within the current formatting, the table does not need to be changed. Magitroopa (talk) 16:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to my original proposal. What if we removed the identities of the masks from the results table? Would that change anything? Realistically the celebs have nothing to do with the results of the show. Here is an example:

*The Masked Singer* season 7 results
Contestant		Ep1.	Ep2.	Ep3.	Ep4.	Ep5.	Ep6.	Ep7.	Ep8.	Ep9.	Ep11.
Contestant		Round 1			Round 2			Round 3			Ep11.
G	Firefly	SAFE	RISK	WIN							WINNER
G	Ringmaster				SAFE	SAFE	WIN				RUNNER-UP
G	Prince							SAFE	SAFE	WIN	THIRD
B	Queen Cobras							SAFE	SAFE	OUT
C	Space Bunny							SAFE	RISK	OUT
C	Baby Mammoth							SAFE	OUT
B	Jack in the Box							OUT
C	Miss Teddy				SAFE	SAFE	OUT
G	Armadillo				SAFE	RISK	OUT
B	Hydra				SAFE	OUT
C	Lemur				OUT
C	Thingamabob	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
B	Cyclops	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
B	Ram	SAFE	OUT
G	McTerrier	OUT

SecondLooneyaccount (talk) 17:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Again, there is no reason for all of this. So we're now going to remove the celebrities (despite that being part of the premise of the show itself) just for the sake of adding another table to list who is who? There is no reason to go through all of this- the current format lists everything and is clear/simple to understand. We shouldn't be trying to make there be more work for no reason. Again, others' thoughts would be greatly appreciated... Magitroopa (talk) 18:19, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. The table should remain as is, and the new proposed format just makes it more confusing and would be a disservice to the readers. Jgstokes (talk) 02:41, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]