Talk:The Loud House/Archive 1
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episodes source
where are the sources for the upcoming episodes of the loud house? Crazybob2014 (talk) 15:31, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- wait i found it. [1] Crazybob2014 (talk) 15:45, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Lucy is not "Emo"
Her clothing, love for gothic poetry and brand of gloominess correlates directly with Goth subculture, and has nothing to do with Emo subculture. Please stop saying she's emo in her description, it's just flat out wrong. Mrmoustache14 (talk) 09:04, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not the one who has been adding "emo" back recently, but it should be noted that she is called an emo in several sources. Previous editors have referred to this article and the first Comic Con comic. Calling her goth because you think her "brand of gloominess correlates directly with goth subculture" probably qualifies as original research. 108.20.47.212 (talk) 23:24, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
How is the show not Canadian?
I put that the show was American/Canadian in the title and Canadian in categories and the lead was removed soon and the categories were removed days later. This show is animated in Canada, but writing, voicing, and everything else is American. How is not Canadian as well? If Johnny Test and other shows are considered both American and Canadian, when Test was made by an American, written in the US, produced there, but only animated there and gets called a Canadian cartoon by many, how is this also not Canadian? I feel like it's a hybrid of both. Does anyone else think we should make it say it's both US/Canadian? Cyanidethistles (talk) 01:32, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
I agree, it makes no sense. I added back the categories and the American-Canadian part. I left a note to see this discussion if anyone wants to revert it. --NickSpark (talk) 23:49, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks man. I agree, the show definitely is Canadian as well seeing as it was animated in Ottawa of course. Even the voice actor for Lincoln is Canadian from what I've seen. Even without knowing it was made in Canada, I could tell it was Canadian in some way by the fact they used Toon Boom, the Flash-like animation program. 08:08, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
Multiple people have taken off the Canada info. One user used "No" as a reason for reverting the addition, and nobody has ever provided a valid reason for their edit(s). I left another note to see/join this discussion. --NickSpark (talk) 23:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
To save time, I'll list some sources that prove it's animated in Canada:
- 1 - Jam Filled's website. Lists TLH under Ottawa work.
- 2 - Article from Animation Magazine about Jam Filled, calling it a "studio headquartered in Ottawa...the studio provides service animation for The Loud House and The Bagel and Becky Show for Nickelodeon."
- 3 - Article from The Hollywood Reporter: "Jam Filled Entertainment animates Nickelodeon's 'The Loud House,' which just introduced a same-sex married couple."
- 4 - Post from the show's confirmed Instagram account. The description says, "Our team from Jam Filled Entertainment in Ottawa came to visit today."
I tried to find something in Wikipedia's guidelines about people removing content just because they don't like it. The closest I could find is WP:IDONTLIKEIT which technically only applies to article deletion. However, this scenario is very similar. --NickSpark (talk) 23:21, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- @NickSpark: "2 - Article from Animation Magazine about Jam Filled, calling it a "studio headquartered in Ottawa...the studio provides service animation for The Loud House and The Bagel and Becky Show for Nickelodeon.""... A Canadian company providing service animation does NOT make it a Canadian show. We don't consider other American shows Canadian/Korean/Japanese/European because service animation is done in those countries, so why should we do the same here? ElectricBurst(Electron firings)(Zaps) 00:22, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- Would you mind if I added a sentence like "Service animation for the show is provided by Jam Filled Entertainment in Ottawa, Canada" to one of the first 2 paragraphs, without changing the American television series part? That way, it will be clear that the show is animated in Canada, but it won't sound like other processes are completed there. I don't necessarily want to call it American-Canadian, I just want to put the info in the lead. --NickSpark (talk) 00:32, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Episodes
In the new press release regarding the season 3 order Nickelodeon has written that the total count of episodes will be 78. 26*3=78. Means Season 2 is also going to consist of 26 episodes. Should it now be changed or is it just theory? --H8149 (talk) 18:42, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Edit request
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In the section Characters/Main, the description for Lincoln Loud now begins:
- Lincoln Loud (voiced by Sean Ryan Fox in the pilot, Grant Palmer in episodes 1–22,[6],Collin Dean in episodes 23–78, Aiden Lewandowski in episodes 79-present)
This should be edited to delete the word "unfortunately". 192.35.35.36 (talk) 22:23, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- Already done. Amaury (talk | contribs) 22:34, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
How Can Anyone Not See This?
Lynn is clearly a female's name only. Lynn Sr.'s name should not even be Lynn, yet it is. And as for "Jr.", the "junior" or "Jr." title respectfully goes for only males named after their father, not for girls. And "Jr" is also only if the boy named after his father shares all first, middle and last name, which is also why I don't understand why Frank Sinatra Jr. is a junior if he doesn't share his father, Frank Sinatra Sr.'s middle name Albert, and his middle name is Wayne. But I'm getting off topic here, this is about The Loud House. Also, ALSO I see perfectly how Rin is a unisex name in Japan, but not Lynn for America. Why didn't the creators just name Lynn Sr "Louis" or something if they wanted for all L names except for Rita? I mean, seriously, why not!? PizzaPieLoveHandle07 (talk) 15:42, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- Uh, no – "Lynn" is also a male name: e.g. Lynn Swann. See also: Lynn (name). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:37, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) :Lynn (name) is mainly female not not exclusively. Jr. is a valid generational suffix for women, it is just not that common and yes all the names should be the same but if middle name not commonly used it is a commonly used differentiator. Winifred Sackville Stoner Jr. is an example for women. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:46, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- The OP is Gabriella~four.3-6. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:34, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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DO NOT ADD THE CARTOON BREW ARTICLE. AS OF RIGHT NOW, NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY SAVINO, NICK, VIACOM, OR ANY TLH STAFF THAT THE RUMORS ARE TRUE. THANK YOU 75.136.204.242 (talk) 15:43, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: This is a complaint/rant without a specific request to edit the article. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:01, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Sexual harassment allegations
Cartoon Brew published an article stating that Chris Savino was suspected from Nickelodeon for sexual harassment. This was picked up by other outlets (Deadline, IndieWire, Variety). Those sources cite back to the Cartoon Brew article. However, given the BLP concerns here I think we should wait until other sources report this without basing their reporting on the Cartoon Brew article. If this occurs, we can include it. Until then, let's wait. EvergreenFir (talk) 18:46, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
PLEASE REMEMBER There is still no official statement from Nickelodeon regarding this whole situation. I wanted to make this post to briefly let you know that this is not confirmed and we don't know how The Loud House will be affected in the future IF this all turns out to be true. Do not immediately get mad at either side, because nothing is 100% as of now. So PLEASE NOT DO NOT ADD THE CARTOON BREW ARTICLE. Bang. (talk) 18:47, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- I don't think it needs to be "confirmed". Rather, we need other sources to report it independently (see WP:TRUTH). EvergreenFir (talk) 18:49, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- Understood. Bang. (talk) 18:54, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- Adding to the list of sources citing the Cartoon Brew article: Hollywood Reporter, People, Newsweek. Wondering at what point do we say "enough other places are repeating it, so maybe we include it". Would prefer some other source say it in their own voice though. EvergreenFir (talk) 18:48, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- @EvergreenFir: My take on this is that this news should likely not be repeated at this article, but that it should be mentioned at Chris Savino (and I'd use The Hollywood Reporter cite, and possibly the Newsweek one) where it is definitely 100% relevant to the subject's career. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:42, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Agree that it's relevant, just concerned about lack of confirmation. I think if we do include it, it needs to be clear that it's based on the Cartoon Brew reporting. At least for now. EvergreenFir (talk) 20:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- @EvergreenFir: OK, I see the quandary... Here's what I am getting out of THR article – they seem to be (independently) confirming that Savino has been suspended, but they are citing Cartoon Brew on the details of the accusations. IOW, I think there is enough independent reporting here to merit including the suspension in a Wikipedia article (you can always weasel-word it a little – e.g. "It was reported that..."), even without Nickelodeon confirming it. However, the particular accusation (e.g. "...up to a dozen women...") should probably be left out of any addition to an article on WP:BLP, etc. grounds. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:50, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Ah, okay, I see what you're saying now. I think we could go with that for the Chris Savino article. EvergreenFir (talk) 20:52, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- He's officially fired. New Hollywood Reporter article. Can't edit it myself. Kianworld (talk) 23:43, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Ah, okay, I see what you're saying now. I think we could go with that for the Chris Savino article. EvergreenFir (talk) 20:52, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- @EvergreenFir: OK, I see the quandary... Here's what I am getting out of THR article – they seem to be (independently) confirming that Savino has been suspended, but they are citing Cartoon Brew on the details of the accusations. IOW, I think there is enough independent reporting here to merit including the suspension in a Wikipedia article (you can always weasel-word it a little – e.g. "It was reported that..."), even without Nickelodeon confirming it. However, the particular accusation (e.g. "...up to a dozen women...") should probably be left out of any addition to an article on WP:BLP, etc. grounds. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:50, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Agree that it's relevant, just concerned about lack of confirmation. I think if we do include it, it needs to be clear that it's based on the Cartoon Brew reporting. At least for now. EvergreenFir (talk) 20:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- @EvergreenFir: My take on this is that this news should likely not be repeated at this article, but that it should be mentioned at Chris Savino (and I'd use The Hollywood Reporter cite, and possibly the Newsweek one) where it is definitely 100% relevant to the subject's career. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:42, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- Adding to the list of sources citing the Cartoon Brew article: Hollywood Reporter, People, Newsweek. Wondering at what point do we say "enough other places are repeating it, so maybe we include it". Would prefer some other source say it in their own voice though. EvergreenFir (talk) 18:48, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- Understood. Bang. (talk) 18:54, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
One thing to note is that on this article, all we should state is that he was fired, while the details should be posted on Chris Savino's page. Similar to the cast departures on Bizaardvark and Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn, albeit those were under a lot less severe circumstances, the exact details are complex and are more appropriate, again, on the person's page. See the Jake Paul discussion here for more info. Amaury (talk | contribs) 01:09, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
The audio format is Dolby Digital 5.1. Not Stereo.
l think the audio format Dolby Digital as well know Dip771 (talk) 15:23, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2018
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Arcade ghost (talk) 15:51, 18 February 2018 (UTC) who ever previouly edited this is a moron. the loud houses reception has been removed so i want that BACK. and the opening paragraph has been shortened and it keeps on saying it airs on AFN when in reality it airs on nickelodeon
- Done Vandalism reverted but please don't call editors morons EvergreenFir (talk) 16:20, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Edit Request
Can somebody make a "in other media" like every other cartoon show has and also a "list of loud house charaters" page. It will really make this page more shorter and simple. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcade ghost (talk • contribs) 17:13, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Needs some edit!
This is not a sitcom! — Preceding unsigned comment added by FayyadAllhassan (talk • contribs) 17:35, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Category Request
Can this article be added to Category:Cartoon Controversies? 24.98.30.150 (talk) 02:26, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
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Please add {{mergefrom|Howard and Harold McBride|discuss=Talk:The Loud House#Merger proposal|date=June 2018}}
to the top of the article. 2601:241:300:C930:CCA4:4A03:E075:67C6 (talk) 04:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Merger proposal
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Consensus was against the proposed merger. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 10:10, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
I propose that Howard and Harold McBride be merged into The Loud House. They are currently the only characters in the show to have a separate page. They are secondary characters who appeared in only nine 11-minute segments out of more than 100 in the show. Much of the page seems to be regarding their reception, which can be transferred to the Reception section on The Loud House. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:300:C930:CCA4:4A03:E075:67C6 (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose It doesn't matter that they are secondary characters, the article itself is sufficiently notable as shown by content and references to meet WP:GNG. Merging it back to this article would be inappropriate now. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Disagree - Being the first one to have a separate page shouldn't be the reason to the merging. Considering how many controversies because of this couple's existence, The Loud House is still a young show (2016-), if it becomes more popular, who knows if Lincoln Loud, the main protagonist, will have a separate page for himself, just like the case of Dipper and Mabel Pines. - George6VI (talk) 08:52, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - the characters are more than notable enough to merit their own article. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 13:45, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Description of AFA
@Geraldo Perez: Regarding this revert, the American Family Association is described on its article as a fundamentalist Christian group and as a hate group. It is inaccurate to describe it as a "conservative media group" as that implies that this group is a mainstream conservative organization, which is not the case. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 08:52, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Justthefacts9: It is listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). That is an opinion by an opposing advocacy group, hardly a statement of unbiased fact. For this article keep it neutral. It is accurate to describe it as a "conservative media group". There is no need to put contentious pejorative statements in this article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 09:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: The Southern Poverty Law Center is a non-profit civil rights organization whose listings of hate groups is considered to be authoritative by law enforcement agencies including the FBI. Moreover, the American Family Association is not described as a "conservative media group" on its own article, so why describe it as such here? --Justthefacts9 (talk) 09:22, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Justthefacts9: The article describes them as "a non-profit organization that promotes fundamentalist Christian values". SPLC is a source of information used by the FBI. Its being authoritative in their classifications is also widely disputed and considered overbroad or unwarranted. This article is not the place to treat as fact an opinion by an advocacy group. Keep it neutral and leave contentious content in the proper articles where a full in context coverage can be documented. This article is not the place for it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 09:35, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Then let's use the description that the article for the American Family Association does instead of an inaccurate description. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 10:52, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- Better idea: use whatever the AFA refers to itself as. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:34, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- The AFA refers to itself as a "Christian organization", but it is objectively a fundamentalist Christian group (as properly described in its article). It is inaccurate and misleading to suggest that AFA is a mainstream conservative or mainstream Christian organization. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 18:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- For the purposes of this article it is sufficient to label the two exemplars listed as conservative media groups. The names are linked for readers who want additional information about the groups. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- Then perhaps the best and simplest solution here is to remove the descriptor. Readers can click on the article link if they wish to find a description of the group in question. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 10:08, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- For the purposes of this article it is sufficient to label the two exemplars listed as conservative media groups. The names are linked for readers who want additional information about the groups. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- The AFA refers to itself as a "Christian organization", but it is objectively a fundamentalist Christian group (as properly described in its article). It is inaccurate and misleading to suggest that AFA is a mainstream conservative or mainstream Christian organization. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 18:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- Better idea: use whatever the AFA refers to itself as. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:34, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Then let's use the description that the article for the American Family Association does instead of an inaccurate description. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 10:52, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Justthefacts9: The article describes them as "a non-profit organization that promotes fundamentalist Christian values". SPLC is a source of information used by the FBI. Its being authoritative in their classifications is also widely disputed and considered overbroad or unwarranted. This article is not the place to treat as fact an opinion by an advocacy group. Keep it neutral and leave contentious content in the proper articles where a full in context coverage can be documented. This article is not the place for it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 09:35, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: The Southern Poverty Law Center is a non-profit civil rights organization whose listings of hate groups is considered to be authoritative by law enforcement agencies including the FBI. Moreover, the American Family Association is not described as a "conservative media group" on its own article, so why describe it as such here? --Justthefacts9 (talk) 09:22, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- No. Geraldo Perez is right – we should not be throwing around words like "hate group" unless it is predominantly referred to as such in the preponderance of sources. One source calling that does not cut it. Definitely violates WP:NPOV. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:32, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Suggest List of Loud House Characters
The character list has increased significantly in the last year, many of them being one-off characters. I suggest there should be a separate page titled "List of Loud House Characters", like many other shows have, to clear up the main page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickterra (talk • contribs) 00:02, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
WikiProject LGBT?
Doesn't this cartoon have homosexual characters (the McBrides, Sam)? Therefore, shouldn't it be under Wikipedia:LGBT? MightyArms (talk) 22:40, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Is Clyde a Main Character?
Lincolnspoud, you appear to be of the opinion that Clyde is not a main character as you have repeatedly put him under the supporting character header. Please discuss your reasoning and proposed edits here. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, but contrarily and unfortunately, at times when I seen in the all episodes, Clyde is not at all a main character, but in reality is considered a real major/supporting character in the show, alongside Lynn Loud Sr. and Rita Loud. (talk) 20:47, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Personal opinion doesn't determine how the characters are categorized. Per MOS:TV, "main" cast members are determined by the series producers (not by popularity, screen time, or episode count). Nickelodeon considers there to be 12 main characters: Lincoln, his ten sisters, and Clyde. Sources like Zap2it, The Futon Critic, TV Guide, Variety, and Nickelodeon's character artwork feature all 12 characters as main. NickSpark (talk) 01:33, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, but contrarily and unfortunately, at times when I seen in the all episodes, Clyde is not at all a main character, but in reality is considered a real major/supporting character in the show, alongside Lynn Loud Sr. and Rita Loud. (talk) 20:47, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Genderbends
If someone put the genderbends of the louds in the list of characters, would they be recurring characters?(Just wondering.) HanazukiFan2009 AUTTP EDCP VEVO (talk) 14:49, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Only if they make other appearances. That goes for the Loud family's rabbit counterparts. --Rtkat3 (talk) 19:41, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
The Casagrandes
I am a proposing a split out article focusing on these characters given Nickelodeon's shift to promote the new spin off series. It's going to happen anyways, and placing some of the supporting (for now) characters in their own article frees up clutter space on this article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:28, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- The page for the spin-off has not been officially made yet. Are you suggesting that the Casagrande family should get an article here like they did for Howard and Harold McBride? --Rtkat3 (talk) 19:41, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- I am suggesting that they get their own characters page as too much information is trying to be pushed on this article. It would be a bit like List of SpongeBob SquarePants characters, as the franchise grows so do the amount of introduced characters. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:54, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Propose list of characters split
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The characters section is getting ridiculous long and ridiculously messy and should be split. Also, why do we have sections for each different group? We should be properly following the standard "main," "recurring," and "notable guest stars" method. For non-main characters, if they don't fall into either of the latter two, they don't get listed. Amaury (talk | contribs) 04:08, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- I trust the judgment here and endorse your categorization method--Fradio71 (talk) 07:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- Endorse a split. The cast section is ridiculously long now (and should likely be trimmed even after splitting...). Remember – after splitting to at least leave a "simple" cast list of the main characters here. A lot of people split out character lists like this, and then simply leave a link at the main TV show article – you're not supposed to do that, and the main cast should still be listed here... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- Endorse a split, with only notable characters listed on the separate page. Keeping minor characters without much significance (like the main page does now) verges on fancruft... NickSpark (talk) 00:28, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- Any updates on this front? Image2012 (talk) 09:36, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
- Endorse - this is just for the record. I agree that the characters section has gotten way too long for the main article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:01, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
- Endorse an article list of The Loud House characters (List of The Loud House characters) so that the main article won't be too long due to the characters section list. Blanding Cassatt (Talk) 04:25, June 30, 2019 Eastern Time
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I'd like to make an edit request. 204.197.177.1 (talk) 23:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Regarding the graphic novels
The show has had graphic novels since 2017, all of which feature original stories. Should these be included in the "Other Media" section? Here are some secondary sources on the graphic novel series:
- https://www.animationmagazine.net/events/exclusive-preview-papercutz-comic-the-loud-house-there-will-be-chaos/
- http://www.comicon.com/2017/02/21/a-graphic-novel-series-based-on-nickelodeons-the-loud-house-from-papercutz-in-may/
A commentary on the graphic novel series in 2019: https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/43094/loud-house-ratings-drive-graphic-novel-sales Image2012 (talk) 07:22, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Lead cleanup
Not a top priority for me at the moment, but the lead of the article could probably need some cleanup. Not sure if we really need to mention the whole Howard/Harold thing when there's info on it later in the article. I'd assume the info on that in the lead can be merged into that section, though I'm not entirely sure if it is any new info or is the same info as in the critical section. Unless it is that important to leave in the lead, then by all means, leave it as is.
The end of the lead could probably benefit from some switch-arounds, which I may get to. I've already fixed it, but previously, it was a bit confusing with The Casagrandes info followed up by a greenlit fifth season. However, I think that having TLH season 5 info first followed by info on the 2021 film would be good, and then at the end noting about the spinoff. Magitroopa (talk) 19:37, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- I've just gone ahead and rearranged the lead- seems to be a better flow now. Still no idea about the Howard/Harold info. Pinging IJBall as well since I'm not entirely sure about that info... maybe I am entirely wrong and it should stay in the lead, or maybe I'm right and the info is repeated info that should either be deleted entirely or merged into the 'critical' section later in the article. Magitroopa (talk) 17:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- I am not familiar with this series, so I don't think I can help on this. But, in general, the lede should summarize the important points/content in the article. WP:TVLEAD might provide some guidance. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:40, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
NEW DVD, Absolute Madness
Season 2, Volume 2: Absolute Madness is getting a release on DVD soon. https://www.target.com/p/the-loud-house-absolute-madness-8211-season-2-volume-2-dvd/-/A-79622920?fbclid=IwAR3uvS5XUdJGCUYzfLDxIsPi7TaoDyXjWHKjWDlwrcosEL9mrMOANf8sA_s 24.242.21.222 (talk) 01:53, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Theme song infobox
No clue why/if it's necessary for some reason (why I'm asking here before doing anything...), but I don't think we need the theme song composers/writers under both theme_music_composer
and opentheme
. Any reason it's currently listed in both of these? Only one should be fine... Magitroopa (talk) 17:48, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Number of Episodes and Segments
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There should be 104 episodes and 199 segments, not 105 episodes and 200 segments. The episode "Schooled!" didn't air yet, so it should still be 104 episodes and 199 segments. When the episode airs, that will be the 105th episode and actually the 201st segment since there are 2 segments of the episode because it's a one-hour long episode. The Spanish Wikipedia says there are 104 episodes and 199 segments of the show. That is correct. Also, it says in the list of the loud house episodes there in the Spanish Wikipedia that the episode "Schooled!" is the 105th episode and 201st segment of the show. But it didn't air yet, so it should be 104 episodes and 199 segments. Then when it airs on TV, it will be 105 episodes and 201 segments. Here is the citations of my source: [1], [2]
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References
- ^ "The Loud House". Wikipedia.
- ^ "Anexo:Episodios de The Loud House". Wikipedia.
- The "Hangin' At Home Special" aired back in May counts as an episode, which is why that is added on, giving the extra numbering here.
- Wikipedia can't cite itself, see WP:USERG. Also see WP:RSPRIMARY- "Wikipedia articles (and Wikipedia mirrors) in themselves are not reliable sources for any purpose"
- So no, it's perfectly correct. I believe the numbers would be updated to "106 (204 segments)" (since a half-hour contains 2 segments, an hour-long special would then be 4 segments- or it might just be separated into 2 segments as the 2 half hours. Probably another discussion worth having...) Magitroopa (talk) 05:22, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. Melmann 09:55, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
There should be 104 episodes and 199 segments, not 105 episodes and 200 segments like it says on "The Loud House" page right now. When "Schooled!" airs on TV, that will be the 105th episode and 203rd segment, but right now, there are 104 episodes and 199 segments. You guys made a mistake and should fix it right away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:31FF:D894:1068:37EC (talk) 21:49, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Forgot to say something. When I go into "List of The Loud House episodes", each season from seasons 1-4 has 26 episodes, which add up to 104 episodes. For segments, season 1 has 52 segments, season 2 has 49 segments, season 3 has 48 segments, and season 4 has 50 segments. Altogether, they have 199 segments. So, therefore, there are 104 episodes and 199 segments. You guys again made a mistake and must fix it as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:31FF:D894:1068:37EC (talk) 21:56, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- You can see what other editors think, but I believe "The Loud House & Casagrandes Hangin' At Home Special" counts as an episode. It is both listed on The Futon Critic and Zap2it. It's perfectly fine to add it to the count. Magitroopa (talk) 22:12, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- And just as an FYI in regards to this question, yes, this is what was meant to get a consensus for the change before using the 'edit semi-protected' template- discuss the issue/request, gain a consensus for the change, and then use that template. Magitroopa (talk) 22:25, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Magitroopa. My name is Jack. I am really angry at you for edit warring with MarioFan123 about the number of episodes and segments. He was just trying to make a reasonable edit. But you then edit warred with him on the subject by changing it back to 105 episodes and 200 segments when in fact there are 104 episodes and 199 segments. You have to listen to me. The Hangin at Home Special isn't an actual episode, whether it says in the Futon Critic or not. It isn't an actual episode. Therefore, there are 104 episodes and 199 segments in the loud house, not 105 episodes and 200 segments. I demand you change it back to 104 episodes and 199 segments now. Or I am going to contact an administrator saying you need to get blocked for what you did. MarioFan123 told me you've been doing this recently and I am not happy about it. Whatever you do when it comes to this, I am not in agreement with you because of what you did to MarioFan123. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:31FF:D894:1068:37EC (talk) 16:24, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Also, I am trying to gain consensus on this issue just like you said. I hope I am doing this correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:31FF:D894:1068:37EC (talk) 16:26, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- As you've already been notified on your talk page, you are canvassing on User talk:MarioFan123- getting a consensus does not mean going to someone who you believe will agree with your request and begging said user to do that edit. One revert is not 'edit warring', especially given the fact I specifically said there is an ongoing discussion and to discuss it here.
- As stated in the notice on your talk page, "While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view", and, "...do not post notices which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you." (Which is very apparent in, "I am thinking you don't think the Hangin at Home Special counts as an episode because you said in your edit there were 104 episodes and 199 segments"). Your discussion on MarioFan123's talk page is exactly the opposite of what should be done. Magitroopa (talk) 16:35, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Who thinks that there should be 104 episodes and 199 segments in the loud house and not 105 episodes and 200 segments? I think so. I am trying to gain consensus as to who agrees with this so that we can change it to 104 episodes and 199 segments and leave it that way. Magitroopa says there are 105 episodes and 200 segments because the hangin at home special counts as an episode. Well, it isn't. Whether it says in the Futon Critic or not, it doesn't count as an actual episode. It just doesn't count as one. Now when "Schooled!" airs on TV, that will be the 105th episode and 200th segment, but now, it's only 104 episodes and 199 segments. So who agrees with me on this so we can fix the issue and then leave it how it is after we fix the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:31FF:D894:1068:37EC (talk) 19:02, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Hey, Magitroopa. I am trying to gain consensus by seeing who agrees with my statement so we can fix the issue and leave it how it is once we fix it, but no one has gotten back to me yet. Do you think you could consult them and tell them that I am gaining consensus, but no one has gotten to me yet and to get back to me as soon as possible? I would appreciate it, Magitroopa. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:31FF:D894:1068:37EC (talk) 21:06, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Guys, I need your opinion if you agree with the issue I described above right this instance! C'mon, you guys! This is urgent! I need my issue resolved right away! If you don't get my issue resolved right away, then I am out of Wikipedia because Wikipedia wants the misinformation and not the facts! So, c'mon! Get with the program or I'm leaving!
- Calm down. there is absolutely no rush for this, especially being regarding if an episode 'counts or not'. People do not live here 24/7 and have other things to do. Please calm down and stop spamming different talk pages (including my own) just because someone won't answer you right away. Magitroopa (talk) 23:55, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry. It's just my Autism that wants things done right away and I've learned in life things don't have to get done right away. Sometimes with my autism, I get pretty emotional like what I did earlier and I want things done right away, but I've learned in life that things sometimes don't get done right away and I don't have to get emotional all the time. I learned it's OK and to just calm down. So, I will calm down. But still, I hope that my issue gets resolved sometime soon. Maybe not now, but sometime soon because I just know there is something wrong with whatever I am talking about and I want it resolved when editors can resolve it, and I will try to calm down a bit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:31FF:D894:1068:37EC (talk) 01:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
This is the last time I am going to talk about this, then I am going to drop it because I am obsessing about this too much and I have to get to school soon. There are 104 episodes and 199 segments, not 105 episodes and 200 segments. The Hangin' at Home Special doesn't count as an actual episode, whether it's in the Futon Critic or Zap2it or it's not in any of those. It just doesn't count as an actual episode of the loud house. Therefore, there are only 104 episodes and 199 segments, not 105 episodes and 200 segments. Also, when "Schooled!" airs on TV, you guys better say then the loud house would then have 105 episodes and however many segments it would have. I am not a segment person, but more of an episode person. And that's it. That's all I have to say for right now. If I don't see a change, then there's a high chance I am going to leave Wikipedia because of all the misinformation they have, including what I am talking about right now. So that's it. I have to get ready for school now. I'll talk later. Bye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:31FF:D894:1068:37EC (talk) 12:54, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
I am on a break now, so if you guys want to, you can respond to my previous post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:31FF:D894:1068:37EC (talk) 13:10, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Hey. Anyone here to respond to my post where I mentioned school and everything about the number of episodes and segments of the loud house? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:1000:387E:CC75:703A:81BF:2155 (talk) 00:42, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Specials can indeed count as an episode- just like how "Super Sneak Peek" and "The Masked Singer: Sing-Along Spectacular" do still count as episodes for The Masked Singer.
- As seen here, you've literally just deleted plenty of conversation- including comments by other users. You should not be doing that. This is also definitely not a conflict of interest- it's just whether an episode counts as an 'episode or not'- very clearly you're just trying as many things as you can to change this. Certain templates are for certain things, and the template you used is only for COI.
- Epguides states that it gets its information from a site called 'TVMaze', which I definitely know is user edited- so no, that cannot be used as a source (falls under WP:USERG).
- "The Hangin' at Home Special doesn't count as an actual episode, whether it's in the Futon Critic or Zap2it or it's not in any of those." - Except that both Futon Critic and Zap2it are very much WP:RS.
- Please stop resorting to as many edit requests as you can find just because you didn't get the answer you wanted. This is getting way too excessive, especially over an issue over 'if an episode actually counts as an episode or not' This is really starting to seem more and more of a SPA case. Magitroopa (talk) 01:33, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Graphic novels
Should we also talk about the graphic novels and the chapter books? They help expand the show's lore, and the former has been very successful for Papercutz, which publishes them.
Citation: https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/43094/loud-house-ratings-drive-graphic-novel-sales
Image2012 (talk) 16:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- Any follow-up on this? Image2012 (talk) 17:12, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Franchise page
The Loud House needs a franchise page, with everything coming from that universe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pederjo99 (talk • contribs) 02:26, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Table for Listen Out Loud
There should be a table for the episodes of the podcast. Image2012 (talk) 19:17, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2021
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I think the article should be able to edit by non users because I would like it to be. And also was the article originally able to edit by anyone when it first created. 107.146.244.150 (talk) 00:47, 2 June 2021 (UTC) 107.146.244.150 (talk) 00:47, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Article Page Request for he Loud House Movie
Will anyone make an article for The Loud House Movie? --MerrieMelodian (talk) 21:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- There is a draft located at Draft:The Loud House Movie. Magitroopa (talk) 21:39, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, but will that article ever exist? --MerrieMelodian (talk) 21:33, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Someone better hurry up. It's out now. Image2012 (talk) 10:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, but will that article ever exist? --MerrieMelodian (talk) 21:33, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
"ラウドハウス" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect ラウドハウス. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 20#ラウドハウス until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 19:49, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
The Loud House Movie
I think it's about time someone created an article on "The Loud House Movie", since every other film adaptation has one, even the Netflix revival specials of "Rocko's Modern Life" and "Invader Zim" each have one. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 23:19, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- There is a Draft:The Loud House Movie named sketch, which can be turned into a real article, however, it just needs to be expanded to make it happen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Szeszabi (talk • contribs)
- The question is, are there enough reliable secondary sources which cover this movie to justify an article? I already declined the draft because it was insufficiently sourced --Salimfadhley (talk) 11:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Why don't you just keep trying? Brian K. Tyler (talk) 07:09, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- The question is, are there enough reliable secondary sources which cover this movie to justify an article? I already declined the draft because it was insufficiently sourced --Salimfadhley (talk) 11:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
'A Loud House Christmas'
Here's an article on the special's ratings to help get it started: https://deadline.com/2021/12/a-loud-house-christmas-ratings-nickelodeon-1234883287/ Image2012 (talk) 09:57, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
The Really Loud House
An article for the new spinoff series, The Really Loud House, should be created. It currently redirects to the article for the main series, The Loud House.Cwater1 (talk) 04:16, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe once the show airs more episodes and has more resources in from the internet, then we can make it, it's own page. ThatGuyWhoMakeRandomStuff (talk) 23:30, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Franchise article
Is the franchise article suddendly removed? No mather what has happend it needs to come back. Pederjo99 (talk) 01:15, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Franchise Infobox
should this franchise header had a infobox there? NatwonTSG2 (talk) 17:25, 8 April 2023 (UTC)