Talk:The Lord bless you and keep you

A fact from The Lord bless you and keep you appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 January 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that John Rutter composed "The Lord bless you and keep you" for the memorial service of his former music teacher at Highgate School?

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The result of the move request was: not moved Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 16:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Lord bless you and keep you → The Lord Bless You and Keep You – Unsure if this repeats the mess of A Boy Was Born. However, the current title is used by reliable sources, but the proposed title follows guidelines, like WP:NCCAP. Shall there be exceptions? George Ho (talk) 22:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This is not an exception. It is not a title, simply the first line, sentence case, as discussed here. It is also published like that. Needless to say, it stresses "Lord", and reads better. (A Boy was Born is still a mess, so is Remember not, Lord, our offences.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:41, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per "been there, done that." It's a derived title, hence in sentence case, not title case. Montanabw^(talk) 23:07, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose No exception. This is a case where the passage being set to music is not titled but the title derives from the first line of the text, hence we title it with sentence case, per MOS as it is soon to be amended to reflect these circumstances, per Chicago Manual of Style.--ColonelHenry (talk) 00:00, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Gerda's discussion link above. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:37, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Bad reflink

The OUP reference has an incorrect weblink. Where should this be pointing? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:30, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are two mentioning OUP: FN1 and FN6. Seeing what is cited to FN1, it should probably be replaced by FN6 (that is, remove ref name=OUP and replace those two citations with ref name=score. Or have I overlooked something, Gerda?)

Incidentally, ref name=score seems to be mis-specified. If it's cite book, the title should be Easy Anthems or (if it's what I think it is) Oxford Easy Anthems, and David Willcocks should be identified as editor. The citation should read something like:

Rutter, John: "The Lord bless you and keep you". In David Willcocks, ed. (1981). Oxford Easy Anthems. Oxford University Press. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

--Stfg (talk) 11:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the confusion. (I wrote that article as relief from distress, the relief worked, sorry that the quality suffered.) I fixed the first link, to the choral version, the second one to the F major version is different. I use the above book ref now, thank you! There are pdf's available (choral, F major), but I am not sure if they can be included, as copyrighted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Publishing date

We sang this song way way before 1981 at church and at Abilene Christian University—including the seven fold Amen. Mrsjdh (talk) 16:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mrsjdh: I have had a look on WorldCat.[1] Apart from one listed as 1928 (before Rutter was born),[2] the earliest publication I can see is dated 1980.[3] It's possible that Rutter made a preliminary version of the work available to Abilene Christian University before it was published, but his article does not mention any link with the university. Verbcatcher (talk) 20:31, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]