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a speed of 1:40 gait

What does 'a speed of 1:40 gait' mean? Is a 'gait' a unit? Why is a ratio given? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.239.177.76 (talk) 15:54, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I reworded to remove "gait" which was oddly placed. If you read the rest of the sentence, you will see that 1:40 is a time, 1 minute and 40 seconds, meaning how fast the horse would travel a mile at that speed. Montanabw ^(talk) 23:33, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Error in math?

So if the cameras are places 69 cm apart, and the horse is travelling at 36km/hr, that means each picture is roughly 70ms apart, not 1/1000th of a second... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.83.222.203 (talk) 23:17, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think the 1/1000 is shutter speed? But it is a bit confusing, I agree. HCA (talk) 00:01, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've clarified the sentence based on Edward Armitage's 1883 Thematic Divisions of Images, pg. 176, "The word "instantaneously" does not at all represent the rapidity with which the negatives were taken. It was calculated that the time for each operation was under 1/2000 th part of a second. The interval between the production of the negatives was one twenty-fifty of a second, which if multiplied by twelve, will give about half a second for the completion of the series." -- ToE 14:01, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mismatch

I noticed that the images in the infobox don't match the gif on the page. Is the animation taken from a later experiment? Tigerboy1966 06:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering the same thing. The "Development" section does detail two separate experiments. Is the picture in the infobox from the first experiment, and the animation from the second? This should probably be made clear in the descriptions somehow. ~Mable (chat) 08:45, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notice that the horse in the infobox has a longer tail. Also the rider's position is much more upright and he isn't wearing a jockey's cap. Tigerboy1966 08:59, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

why does the article say June 15th, but the caption on the picture says June 19?

The text of the article says the date is June 15th, 1878, but the caption of the photograph, as shown in The Horse in Motion high res.jpg, says June 19th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickybobpat (talk • contribs) 00:41, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article and many recent sources chose the Sally Gardner series as the subject for the famous June 15 media event. It was actually the Abe Edgington series that was successfully shot and published (see picture at the top of the article). Muybridge and Stanford did try to make a series with Sally Gardner next, during the same event, but the accident with the breaking strap ruined the results (although the negatives were shown to journalists and helped to convince them that the recordings were genuine). Muybridge tried another session with Sally Gardner on June 19th, of which the results were published as the cabinet card which has the right date.

I'd like to rewrite the problematic parts of this article sometime, but I'll have to look up the original sources. It's a drag to see how much of the myth and misinformation has warped the ideas about these influential photographs, to the point that sources that seem quite reliable have repeated a lot of nonsense. Joortje1 (talk) 20:33, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Saddle

I didn't check every single one of the refs, but I was unable to find a reference to a broken saddle. Throwing a [citation needed] tag in there. 23.249.39.108 (talk) 04:39, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 September 2019

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 13:08, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sallie Gardner at a Gallop → The Horse in Motion – The new title The Horse in Motion was the title printed on the series of cards that is the subject of this article. The old title Sallie Garner at a Gallop is a recent name given to just one of these cards (or to GIF animations of its images). The card that does depict "Sallie Gardner" does not seem to stand out in the series, or the article fails to relate any reasons why it would stand out. The term "gallop" was not used in the printed texts on any of the cards, and it is unlikely that Muybridge or Stanford would have liked it in a title for their work. The term "gallop" was probably dismissed by them, for reasons stated in the related book The Horse in Motion that was published under auspices of Leland Stanford (see https://archive.org/details/horseinmotionass00stilrich/page/100 p. 100-103) Joortje1 (talk) 04:27, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination, search engine results, and this n-gram which has no record of the present title. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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