Talk:The Green Hornet (TV series)

I recall watching green hornet in early '66 just months before I got drafted to the military in july 1966. So the reputed release date of September is incorrect

Logo and screencaps

A logo and a few screencaps would be good... Brit Reid, Kato, Kato as Black Mask, Green Hornet, and Black Beauty should exist as images. 76.66.197.17 (talk) 11:55, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I just added the image of Van Williams in costume as the Hornet (already in the main article's infobox) to the infobox here, since it is more relevant to this article (not to say I took it out of the other; I didn't). --Tbrittreid (talk) 21:55, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Ersatz features

There were two movies cut from this series that deserve mention in the article, but I don't have a solidly accurate description to cite. The James Van Hise book and the Will Murray/Van Williams magazine interview both already cited in the article on other points bring them up. Van Hise initially states (correctly) that there were two, but for the rest of that discussion deals only in the singular, combining known aspects of both films (I have bootleg videos of both) for the remainder of his account. Neither Williams nor Murray seems to be aware of the second. The actual data is:

1. The Green Hornet (1974), combining four episodes, with Lee fight footage from others edited into them (although not as randomly as Van Hise reports). The episodes:

• "The Hunters and the Hunted" (in which Lee is seen with nunchukus)
• "Invasion From Outer Space" (a two-parter; at one point the villain briefly captures the two heroes, and after talking a bit with the Hornet turns to the other and says, "And this can only be Kato!")
• "The Preying Mantis" (in which Lee has more dialog than in any other episode, and which has a fight scene between Kato and ostensibly the character—a ruthless Tong leader—played by actor Mako, but who is reportedly doubled by Lee student Dan Inosanto)

2. The Fury of the Dragon (1976), which does appear to have been thrown together at random.

The first played for about one week in US theaters and got a similarly brief VHS release on the Video Treasures label in 1994, but the other has been seen here only via the bootleg video market. Does anybody have good sources that get all this right? --Tbrittreid (talk) 21:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Issue regarding the Black Beauty

There seems to be some disagreement as to the make and model of the customized car used as the Black Beauty. Many sites assert that the car is a "Chrysler Imperial." However, Wikipedia's own article at Imperial (automobile) correctly states that Imperial was a separate brand from Chrysler in 1966. Chrysler's top models in 1966 were the 300, the New Yorker and the Newport. Since Imperial was indeed a Chrysler model prior to 1955, the mistake is an easy one and most people incorrectly refer to the Imperials of this period as "Chrysler Imperials," much like Continentals in the late 1950s were not "Lincoln Continentals" but a separate brand as well; see Continental Mark II. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 05:52, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

You are completely ignoring point two of my post on your talk page. I see nothing in the Wikipedia article that indicates there was not a Crown Imperial from Chrysler, and that Wikipedia is about verifiability not accuracy. I have a very credible source (loaded with direct quotations from Dean Jeffries himself), that flatly states the car to have been a "1966 Chrysler Crown Imperial", and by Wikipedia rules you are not allowed to change the statement and leave that source citation up. Nor are you allowed to change that statement without a source to your claim that you can cite in the article. Them's the rules here. If you don't want to live by them, then go somewhere else. Sorry, but that's the way it is. I was on the receiving end of such a few times during my first few months here, and adjusted. --Tbrittreid (talk) 22:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Calling Dr. Asperger!

I am ignoring point two because it does not apply. Jeffries is wrong about the name of the car, period. I have provided several verifiable and accurate sources as to the proper name, including Automobile magazine. Chrysler Corporation built the car, but they did not brand it as a Chrysler. It is an Imperial. I owned an Imperial, for heaven's sake. I will also give you one more bit of friendly advice: Please do not ever suggest to me or any other user in good standing that "they can go somewhere else." That said, if you insist on continuing with your violations of WP:CIVIL, I will have no choice but to block you. Please don't let it come to that.

You go, girl! PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

When you guys get this sorted out, you may want to deal with the statement in Imperial (automobile)#In culture that the Green Hornet's car was based on an Imperial LeBaron rather than an Imperial Crown. Deor (talk) 01:31, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I thought of that possibility, but the rear window is too big. I'll certainly double-check. If it is a LeBaron, then yes, that shoud be mentioned. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 14:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Just did a bit of Google searching. Most references, including the Imperial Club, say it's a Crown. Pictures of the rear window bear that out since the Le Baron had a small, "formal" rear window. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 14:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Will you please stop splitting this discussion between here and my personal talk page? It's very difficult to follow everything. I am sick and tired of closed-minded jerks telling me I am uncivil for simply pointing out that bad attitude on their part; to do otherwise is to let them get away with it and prevent the dispute from being resolved on its own merits. I myself have been told to either follow the rules or leave, so don't you dare tell me I'm out of line for saying the same to you when your position is in direct contradiction to the rules. How can Dean Jeffries, the man who did the work on the car, be wrong? Besides, point two is not irrelevant and your sources do not prove to my satisfaction that the car was a Chrysler Imperial (no Crown). They might convince you that Crown Imperial has to be wrong, but they do not document that the car was an Imperial period. In fact, the link numbered "12" in your post there describes and pictures "the 1966 Crown Imperial convertible" putting the two terms together, albeit the other way around. Go take a look if you don't believe me. And of course, almost everybody says TV's Beauty was a Chrysler; I've got lots of sources to that effect. And certainly you are way out of line to dismiss the "verifiability not accuracy" policy. Especially since your profile page indicates you to be an administrator; you really should know better. Of course, admins no longer have the power to block editors unilaterally, so that was a bluff. --Tbrittreid (talk) 19:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Two pops for yes!!!

The "verifiability not accuracy" phrase has a limit, so don't act like it's an unquestionable truth. It means, in an extremely simplified manner, that the threshold for inclusion of content is that it's able to be verified, not simply that an editor thinks something is true. It does not mean, under any circumstance, that if something false can be backed up by a source, it's okay to include it. If a source is simply wrong, "verifiability not truth" goes out the window. common sense and ignore all rules exist for this reason. My point? You cannot shut an opposing argument down with "verifiability not truth" just because your side of the argument is verifiable. Swarm^Talk 10:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

In a nutshell, it comes down to this: people used to believe the world was flat. Don't see many people support that body of thought any more. If there's an error, state in a WP:NPOV way what it was and then what is the correct info. ----moreno oso (talk) 13:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Is there an explanation for Black Beauty's license plate, V194? Klausner (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:58, 12 January 2011 (UTC).

Removed Information

Someone removed this from the article because it was unsourced, but I donm't want it to be lost, so I'm p;utting it here until someone can find a source:

The TV series employed an audio device from the radio show. In its era, the engines of cheaper cars made a lot of noise; the expensive Pierce-Arrow was reputed to be extremely quiet. So, when the Green Hornet said, "rig for silent running," the hornet-like buzz on the radio show was turned off and the listener was left to imagine that the car really was silent. On TV, the car sounded like a modern car, but the noise was removed from the soundtrack after this command.
Woknam66 ^talk _{James Bond} 05:46, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Crossover with the Batman TV Series

Unfortunately, the assertion that the Batman TV series treated the Green Hornet as real isn't quite true. There is an episode where Bruce sits down in he study, gestures to the television set and says, "It's time for 'The Green Hornet'. But, before they can actually start watching the episode, The Joker breaks into regularly scheduled programming (presumably across the board), to taunt Batman with a clue about his next crime. (I THINK it's "The Practical Joker/The Joker's Provokers") After making his boast, the station returns to TGH, but we only HEAR the "Hornet 'buzz'" sound effect -- the one used to change scenes in conjunction with the "Hornet seal" growing larger and then smaller on the screen, ala the "Bat-whirl" scene change effect -- before Bruce turns the set off and stating that he and Dick need to "provide him (The Joker) with some action." (I won't edit the main article until I can verify it personally.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midknightryder13 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Abbythecat (talk) 02:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC)Yup, that's in THE IMPRACTICAL JOKER, just as you described. AbbythecatAbbythecat (talk) 02:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

shouldn't the lone ranger be mentioned?

Abbythecat (talk) 23:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)Maybe someone should mention how HORNET connects to THE LONE RANGER. In the old RANGER TV series, Ranger was John Reid, his brother Daniel Reid, and the Ranger's nephew (Dan's son) was Dan Reid. Dan grew up and Brit was his son. In the HORNET TV series, they never specifically mention this, but Hornet's last name is still Reid (can't be a coincidence, obviously meant as a continuation of the RANGER TV series). This connection was made on radio. I'm guessing it would hold true on TV. Anyone's thoughts...? AbbythecatAbbythecat (talk) 23:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

No info re. competition, reception or critical reviews?

I think there should be information re. the show's reception, audience numbers, reviews by critics and mention of what series it was up against on the other major networks (CBS and NBC). Phantom in ca (talk) 04:35, 17 August 2019 (UTC)