Talk:The Glory of Love (Benny Goodman song)

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Not moved, 29 April 2021, to The Glory of Love, see discussion.
Moved, 1 December 2024, from The Glory of Love (song) to The Glory of Love (Benny Goodman song), see discussion.

Guess Who's Coming To Dinner

Why no mention of it?173.58.64.64 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:49, 27 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Why would there be mention of it? - SummerPhD^v2.0 23:10, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner is one of the top films of 1967, with 23 nominations (including 10 Oscars) and 11 wins (including 2 Oscars). "The Glory of Love" is sung by a chorus over the opening and closing credits, is sung by Jacqueline Fontaine in the middle of the film and is reprised a number of times as a motif throughout the film. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:14, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The shortcut here is to find a source saying that and add it to the article, rather than arguing someone should. - SummerPhD^v2.0 12:39, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If the above comment (at 12:39, 1 May 2019) had been posted as a reply to the IP's question, "Why no mention of it?", there would have been to need for my posting (at 07:14, 1 May 2019).

However, the reply (at 23:10, 20 October 2018) was simply, "Why would there be mention of it?", thus leaving the possible impression that 1) Guess Who's Coming to Dinner has no relation to the song and any mention of this film in the song's article would be a non sequitur, 2) that the film either has insufficient notability or is an outdated obscurity undeserving of mention or 3) that listing the numerous uses a well-known song such as this one engenders in the entertainment industry amounts to trivia.

On the basis of at least the third assumption, it may well be argued that there is no need to mention the film in the song's article and my comment (at 07:14, 1 May 2019) was not intended as support for mentioning the film, but merely as an explanation for users who may not be aware as to the reason the IP questioned the absence of any reference regarding Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:11, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Slam (1933)

Music is very resemble to theme of First National Pictures' 1933 Grand Slam. Look for youtube or other internet sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.184.194.91 (talk) 02:18, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have an independent reliable source discussing this? - SummerPhD^v2.0 23:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 29 April 2021

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 06:14, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Glory of Love (song) → The Glory of Love – sole Wikipedia main title header that uses this exact form, thus obviating the need for the parenthetical qualifier "(song)". A hatnote atop the song's entry — For other uses, see Glory of Love (disambiguation) — will resolve any uncertainty. Moreover, an argument can even be made that this 1936 classic has equal or greater notability than the song positioned as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the Glory of Love (disambiguation) page — 1986's Glory of Love. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 05:39, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose WP:SMALLDETAILS 1936 song needs some clarity. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:17, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly Glory of Love (Peter Cetera song) and The Glory of Love (Benny Goodman song) might be better In ictu oculi (talk) 14:20, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Move to The Glory of Love (Benny Goodman song). Per IIO, the inclusion or not of "The" doesn't seem a sufficient disambiguator to make it obvious which song is intended. But the Peter Cetera song does seem to be the primary topic by page views so I wouldn't move that one. The Glory of Love can continue to redirect to the dab page as it does curently. — Amakuru (talk) 08:49, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as proposed. "The" is hardly ever a good disambiguator, it gets both added and dropped in everyday writing and speech. (The only exceptions I can think of are The The and The Who.) Narky Blert (talk) 12:21, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 1 December 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 10:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

– "The Glory of Love" is a 1936 classic that is part of the Great American Songbook and has been covered by top recording stars (The Glory of Love (song)#Other versions). Three years and seven months ago, among the three voters at Talk:The Glory of Love (song)#Requested move 29 April 2021, above, two suggested The Glory of Love (song) → The Glory of Love (Benny Goodman song) and one of those suggested the more extensive move proposed here. If consensus has changed and the original proposal from April 2021 were to meet with approval, I would join in support of it as the alternative option — The Glory of Love (song) → The Glory of Love, while leaving all other headers unchanged. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:13, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Seems a reasonable solution. Binksternet (talk) 05:17, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Theparties (talk) 06:20, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support no clear primary topic by views[[1]] and support using the artist for the songs since with media the presence or absence of "The" is usually indistinguishable per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:49, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.