Talk:The Empress (tarot card)

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On 11 August 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to The Empress (tarot card). The result of the discussion was moved to "tarot" ( 'small t' ).

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I give -- what needs to be cleaned up? I didn't see anything listed on the clean up pages, and maybe I'm just dim, but nothing jumped out at me -- woefully incomplete, of course, but that is a concession to the shortness of life . . . . Lutanite 23:26, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Having heard nothing, I'm going to remove the clean up tag. Someone let me know if that's a protocol violation, would ya? Lutanite 04:20, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the "Examples" section since it was entirely Original Research which Wikipedia does not allow. I left the "mythopoeteic interpretation" section because that may have come from a reputable source but it seems to be something based on personal interpretation like the "Examples" section. - DNewhall

Unverifiable and unbalanced content

The article is just personal opinions from an occult enthusiast about the nature and meaning of a particular tarot card. No peer reviewed books or journal articles are cited. No references or footnotes are given. When a new statement is added, the source needs to be cited, and the source needs to be verifiable, and reliable. Waite is not an unbiased, factual source on the history or evolution of tarot cards. The work can be cited properly, however: "Waite's opinion in his book The Pictorial Key to the Tarot ... etc" The other sources are definitely of questionable academic weight.

The card in question has a history of over 500 years in European card games in which it is used as trump card (see Tarocchi). The article is unbalanced in that it only features the recent uses of the card for divination. This makes the article biased due to its recentism. Since the article ignores use of the card for game play in Europe and other parts of the world, it offers an anglo-american perspective that raises NPOV issues. There are academic sources and sources from international organizations discussing the history and evolution of the "Empress" card as well as its use in games. These need to be utilized. - Parsa 07:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Useless and unrelated information

What's the point in saying that the Japanese Empress is the only living empress today? That has no connection to this card, so I'm removing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.217.140.34 (talk) 00:11, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ur-Poisoner?

What on earth is this? Googling it only resulted in many instances of the same piece of text, or parts of chat saying "ur poisoner, haha!" etc.84.249.77.153 (talk) 10:15, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Move discussion in progress

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Added 'The Empress in Popular Culture' section

Thought to add the card's notable use on the back cover of Bob Dylan's 1976 Desire album; its significance to the artist's wife and the tarot's in his songwriting. 2 online citations added. Dano67 (talk) 02:32, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]