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Worked to improve the page on artist Jenny Holzer for Art+Feminism edit-athon 2016.

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Dano67 (talk) 17:27, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Created Teenage Tragedies (topic: compilation album) - April 8-9, 2016 Working on improvements, adding definition of the style and sources for Teenage tragedy songs - a very muddled article. Dano67 (talk) 01:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Teenage Tragedies (April 8)

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Fix reference errors. While this draft appears to satisfy the minimum notability requirements for references, more would be desirable.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Teenage Tragedies (April 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Bradv was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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Bradv 04:07, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Teenage Tragedies has been accepted

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Teenage tragedy song

Thanks for your edits there. Do you mind if I join in? There is quite a lot more work needing to be done - as well as fleshing out the background some more, there are more good (or good/bad) examples that could be added, and I'm also keen to make sure that songwriters, as well as recording artists, are credited - perhaps by an additional column in the table. I've also amended a couple of your citations - see WP:REFNAME. If we are prepared to use blog sites in our searches, have you seen this site, and this one? Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:02, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ghmyrtle: Actually, I did read those. The first one is rather lazy, compiling many suggestions that led his list down the same road to off-topic irrelevance as this wiki page's previous iteration. -- i.e. "I haven't heard this one but it seems to fit." It did include a few additional examples, however, that are in the wheelhouse. The other personal page has fewer examples, again without much depth, kind of a glancing view of the topic as a subset of a larger horror-themed site.

One article I quoted and sourced today (Kirsten Zemke's, developed after her podcast in 2011, also referenced) seemed to have a little more authoritative/scholarly heft, and she also has some sources of her own in it. (including that nyx.net - but I'm loathe to use that as a secondary source for reasons above.) All that said, more good (good/bad) examples welcome!

Agreed on songwriters (and that all the entries need to be sourced). I'm not a fan of the table as it is, but don't know much about reformatting to try another style of list.

Next steps for me might be breaking the lead section in two with, say, a 'History' or 'Historical context' subhead, moving more of parodies and 'later' songs off the examples table (50 seems like too too many there) to a section below, showing the themes of these 50s-60s songs carrying into later songs.

Thanks! Dano67 (talk) 08:21, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine - I'll be hopping in and out of that article as I find sources, and find time to do some editing - hopefully we won't tread on each others' toes too much. Several of the songs in the table need to be taken out, as parodies, for one thing. Good work! Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:26, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, per the above 'next steps', I see you've already broken up the lead section based on my writing so far. Nicely done. Dano67 (talk) 08:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do some work later this weekend on moving later/similar songs (I'm thinking of all those after 'Ode to Billie Jo') - into a text section, along with moving parodies out. Dano67 (talk) 16:25, 16 April 2016 (UTC) And of course, sourcing some that no one who previously added the content bothered to source. Thanks … Dano67 (talk) 16:22, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ghmyrtle: More sourcing on my end to do, of course. Saw your addition of 'Clementine' to my new content. Thanks, that's perfect.Dano67 (talk) 09:32, 17 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I may have some time in the coming week to look out additional offline sources - or, I may not...! Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:44, 17 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Re this edit, if you leave it with a WP:REDLINK, it's more likely that a new article will be created. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:30, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ghmyrtle: Re the songwriting credits - was there a main or single source for those, and could it be added to external sources? Or did you search hither and yon?

I'll be going through and adding citations for those I have flagged, and for the text I have added. And then flag some more, and repeat the process. Dano67 (talk) 16:01, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, there wasn't a single source. I looked at label scans at Discogs.com and 45cat.com, and then checked against other sources - but didn't keep track of the details I'm afraid. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:45, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Carbrera -- Thank you, I will review the review, and make further improvements. My work to date on this has mostly been on clarifying and improving the writing, adding musicological research sources, and weeding out extraneous or non-notable content, particularly in the cover versions section. More to come ... Dano67 (talk) 16:29, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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thanks, I will correct to 3D | (3D film). Dano67 (talk) 04:06, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, you didn't include sources for the info that you added to the Susanna Hoffs article. Please could you add them? Otherwise those additions are liable to be removed. (See WP:BURDEN.) Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:54, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

sure, my mistake - thank you for the notice. Dano67 (talk) 12:45, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but please see WP:RSDISCOGS and WP:BLOGS. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:40, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

--- for now, discogs had the relevant compilation details mentioned in my addition. It is a user-generated source, but also user-edited and is corrected and updated for accuracy fairly diligently, much like Wikipedia. I add and update details on releases regularly there. (I will search for a review or a press release from the label, however.)

The blog citation was an interview with the artist in which she directly answers the origins of her pseudonym in Ming Tea, so it seemed the best, most relevant source from among the few times I have seen or heard her tell that story. Dano67 (talk) 13:33, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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