Talk:The Early Asimov

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Merge to

I suggest all the separate articles on the stories be merged and redirect here. They are all (or mostly) unreferenced and may have troubles meeting WP:N as stand alone articles. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 16:44, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Thiotimoline: of the four stories on this theme, only one appeared in T.E.A. - "The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline". Therefore, since it's improper to merge the other three, and also improper to separate one story off, the whole article should remain unmerged. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Good point the story Thiotimoline and the Space Age was in T.E.A. but the article is about Thiotimoline a fictitious chemical compound". Merge tag removed. Should the redirect from go to The Early Asimov instead of Thiotimoline_and_the_Space_Age#The_Space_Age? JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 10:59, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Not sure what you're asking. T.E.A. contains stories written in or before 1949. The Thiotimoline one in that collection is definitely "The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline" (see volume 3, p. 111); it was written in 1947, pub. March 1948. "Thiotimoline and the Space Age" was written in 1960, and is in Opus 100 (p. 170 of my copy). --Redrose64 (talk) 11:34, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

There is no article named Thiotimoline and the Space Age which would be about the short story, it is a redirect to Thiotimoline#The_Space_Age. As a redirect can only go one place and both Thiotimoline and The Early Asimov (T.E.A.) are potential destinations. I was thinking that T.E.A. might be a better destination, because it is book with the short story, the article Thiotimoline is a subject of stories, but is not a book. Of course in either case there should be some See also connection between the two. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 15:10, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

• What are your thoughts on the other merges to T.E.A.? JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 15:10, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

If the story is essentially standalone (no sequels) - such as "The Callistan Menace" - then a merge to T.E.A. is probably best. If it's one of a series - such as "Half-Breed", or anything mentioning Multivac - then it might be better in a series article. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

I concur JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 15:14, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

All this stories can be referenced just by adding the book's publication data. And if we merge these all the Plot summaries would be lost. Besides, we have every short story by Asimov as a separate article, no need to cut that. --Againme (talk) 21:42, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Why would the plot summaries be lost? Merge means to move the content that is not redundant and is appropriate. Adding the book's publication data would not meet the requirements of WP:V nor of WP:N. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 15:14, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi! But if we move all the plot summaries, the article on the book would be too long. --Againme (talk) 15:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Most of not all of the plot summaries are short, little more then a paragraph, plus a short piece of history. Some of the articles will be moving to series articles or staying in them like Thiotimoline and the Space Age which is discussed above. The article length should be fine, even if we moved them all in to the same article. Do you have something specific in mind that will limit the article size?JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 10:50, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

The Stories

List of stories in the book, which to merge in to the article The Early Asimov and which should go someplace else?

• "The Callistan Menace" (1940)
• "Ring Around the Sun" (1940)
• "The Magnificent Possession" (1940)
• "Trends" (1939)
• "The Weapon Too Dreadful to Use" (1939)
• "Black Friar of the Flame" (1942)
• "Half-Breed" (1940)
• "The Secret Sense" (1941)
• "Homo Sol" (1940)
• "Half-Breeds on Venus" (1940)
• "The Imaginary" (1942)
• "Heredity" (1941)
• "History" (1941)
• "Christmas on Ganymede" (1942)
• "The Little Man on the Subway" (1950)
• "The Hazing" (1942)
• "Super-Neutron" (1941)
• "Not Final" (1941)
• "Legal Rites" (1950)
• "Time Pussy" (1942)
• "Author! Author!" (1964)
• "Death Sentence" (1943)
• "Blind Alley" (1945)
• "No Connection" (1948)
• "The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline" (1948)
• "The Red Queen's Race" (1949)
• "Mother Earth" (1949)

Merge in

• The Callistan Menace
• Ring Around the Sun
• The Magnificent Possession
• Trends

Series articles

• Thiotimoline and the Space Age in the article is about Thiotimoline
• Half-Breeds on Venus to Half-Breed (Asimov) as a stand alone article not a redirect to Half-Breed (short story)
• Anything from Multivac#Multivac_bibliography should be in the article Multivac (I did not see any, but may have missed something)