Talk:The Disaster Artist (film)

The international distributor needs to be in.

HELP! The info box is gone! The only reminder is that the international distributor, Warner Bros. Pictures needs to be in the box. I'm sure I'm doing it right! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.235.48.206 (talk) 22:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Article names for book and film

Requested move 6 December 2017

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Not moved. Consensus is clearly against the proposed move. bd2412 T 22:22, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

– The name of the book is The Disaster Artist: My Life Inside The Room, the Greatest Bad Movie Ever Made; however, the article is simply named The Disaster Artist. Since "The Disaster Artist" is only an unofficial shortened version of the actual name, but is the actual official name of the movie, it seems logical to rename the article about the book The Disaster Artist: My Life Inside The Room, the Greatest Bad Movie Ever Made, and to rename the article for the movie simply The Disaster Artist, while adding a {for} at the top of the article to say For the book the film is based on, see The Disaster Artist: My Life Inside The Room, the Greatest Bad Movie Ever Made. Hyliad (talk) 00:51, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. This proposal makes sense to me, especially since the film will end up as the more popular of the two.--Bernie44 (talk) 01:22, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. That's a pretty long subtitle, and I think it's probably too soon to declare the film the primary topic. I might support renaming the book article to The Disaster Artist (book) and leaving the film as is with The Disaster Artist being a disambiguation page. Nohomersryan (talk) 04:41, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I agree with Nohomersryan. The Disaster Artist (film) and The Disaster Artist (book) would be more than enough of a distinction. — snoɯʎuoɥʇuɐ 22:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Per WP:SUBTITLES, our usual rule for the titles of books is to elide the subtitle in most cases — we can use it for disambiguation purposes if it's short enough to be natural, but the subtitle here isn't short. For the nonce, I think disambiguating them as (film) and (book), with a dab page at the plain title, is the best solution available — we can revisit this at a later date if the film becomes clearly more notable than the book it's based on (e.g. winning Oscars next winter), but at the moment it's a tossup and the subtitle's too long to satisfy our conditions for titling works with their subtitles. Bearcat (talk) 01:09, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Pretty much for the same reasons stated above by Nohomersryan, et al. The subtitle is too long for practical use. Because the movie has not even hit wide release yet, I think it is too soon to say that the film is certainly more popular than the book. — Mistakenformatt (talk) 03:39, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. While the film will certainly be searched more and the thing people remember and know about more, putting the full title of the book is way too much. If moving is something that is desired, I vote for "The Disaster Artist (book)" or (novel)" TropicAces (talk) 22:24, 7 December 2017 (UTC)tropicAces[reply]
Oppose: I think WP:POVNAME applies here. It states When the subject of an article is referred to mainly by a single common name, as evidenced through usage in a significant majority of English-language reliable sources, Wikipedia generally follows the sources and uses that name as its article title. Even the official website of the book is called "The Disaster Artist Book", completely omitting the subtitle. It's perfectly alright if it's committed from the article title. It already covers it in the lead anyway. Armegon (talk) 07:28, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as recentism when the movie just came out. Too soon to judge whether it's the primary topic for this term, and even if enough time had passed, "The Disaster Artist (book)" would be preferable for the book should that article be renamed at all. No prejudice against re-discussing the matter in 6+ months, though. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:26, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: If anything, it should be renamed "The Disaster Artist (book)". –Matthew - (talk) 00:52, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per both Bearcat and SNUGGUMS. Sock (~~tock~~ talk) 15:42, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as recentism. Moving "The Disaster Artist" to "The Disaster Artist (book)" would be acceptable but even that is not necessary. The page names already make sense as they are because the book was already well established in popular culture before the film existed.--Nicholas0 (talk) 18:43, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose no reason to add a subtitle. --Nuujinn (talk) 17:47, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Cast listing

There seems to be conflict in listing the cast of the film. I've seen edits limiting it to just characters with full names (or at least substantial roles), and others putting as many credits as possible. Personally, I favor the former, and keeping the cast list to important characters only, but a consensus is important, instead of constant back-and-forth. Thoughts? Mistakenformatt (talk) 23:26, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Plot detail

It might be useful to add that, early in the film, Greg is surprised to discover that Tommy has apartments both in San Francisco and in Los Angeles, and that Tommy appears to be a wealthy man although he won't give any details about his background or the source of his wealth. It is mentioned at the end but I think it should be also mentioned early on. IMHO, the fact that Tommy's background and source of income are a mistery from start to finish is an important plot point which should be stressed a little more. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 08:43, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I just made the change. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 09:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Leo or Tommy?

I have an editor saying that the character believed to be Tommy is actually Leo, but my problem is that Leo Wiseau is a dead link unlike Tommy Wiseau. CLCStudent (talk) 16:56, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong. Leo Wiseau is the true creator of The Room Leo Wiseau (talk) 16:58, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But where are you getting that? CLCStudent (talk) 17:00, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Where are you getting that Tommy Wiseau is the true creator of The Room? Leo Wiseau (talk) 17:02, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As I said before, Tommy Wiseau leads to an article, but Leo Wiseau does not. CLCStudent (talk) 17:03, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Then we need to link Leo Wiseau to an article. Leo Wiseau (talk) 17:05, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is no article about Leo. CLCStudent (talk) 17:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well yeah. His article is linked under Tommy Wiseau’s name. Leo Wiseau (talk) 17:08, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No it isn't. There is no mention of Leo anywhere. CLCStudent (talk) 17:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Before he came to America, Leo Wiseau changed his name to Tommy Wiseau. I should know. Leo Wiseau (talk) 17:12, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you are going to need to provide sources that indicate that. On Tommy's page, there is no mention of any such fact. CLCStudent (talk) 17:13, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I’ll go talk to “Tommy” right now. Leo Wiseau (talk) 17:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Run-on sentence from hell

How on Earth does this sentence end up leading off an article? Better yet, how on Earth does this sentence end up anywhere in a Wikipedia article? Seriously?

The Disaster Artist is a 2017 American biographical comedy film directed by James Franco from a screenplay written by Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber, the film is an adaptation of Greg Sestero and Tom Bissell's 2013 non-fiction book of the same name, and chronicles the unlikely friendship between budding actors Tommy Wiseau and Sestero, which results in the production of Wiseau's 2003 film The Room, widely considered one of the worst films ever made.

I have fixed the sentence. But really? SunCrow (talk) 22:26, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]