Talk:The Catch (American football)

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Super Bowl XLII

The addition of a reference to the play made by David Tyree in Super Bowl 42 should be removed for two reasons:

1) It does logically warrant appearing alongside the Dwight Clark play. Should it also appear in full on the entry page for the hail mary made by Boston College or the "Immaculate Reception" the Steelers accomplished? No one is doubting the fantastic nature of the Giants play, but it does not belong on this page intended to describe ONE SPECIFIC PLAY in sports history.

2) The play itself has yet to be categorized, labeled or "come to be known as" "the catch 2." The name is obviously a fan creation, not a historical pop culture creation. Until there is a pop culture consensus, Wikipedia (an 'ENCYCLOPEDIA') cannot logically allow the play to be referenced as such. If it does, then this opens the door for anyone to label any play in any sports with any name they choose: Before long, the Wikipedia would be cluttered with "the game" entries and "the hit" entries.

The play itself needs to be woven into the Super Bowl 42 entry until it transcends the Super Bowl itself in sports history/pop culture, thereby warranting its own entry. That has not occurred yet, and may or may not happen.

162.84.205.133 (talk) 19:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.84.205.133 (talk) 19:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. The play yesterday was certainly reminiscent of "The Catch", but it wouldn't have mattered without the touchdown catch that followed later. "The Catch" was a playoff-game-deciding touchdown pass. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 20:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In this writeup, they call it "The Play", which is kind of generic, but also suggests that they know "The Catch" is already "taken": [1] Oddly enough, "the play" was stated at least 4 times in the above comments. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 10:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

However, "The Play" is already taken, from that 1982 Cal/Stanford game that ended with 5 laterals and with the players having to dodge the idiot marching band that had already come onto the field. There was potential for that on Sunday, but it happened during time-out, so the refs were able to clear the field and make the final play that officially ended the game. (A bit off-topic now, but I had checked it for another article on Sunday - if they were unable to clear the field at all, the NFL could have ended the game as it was, at the Commissioner's discretion.) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 10:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One thing that works against it acquiring some kind of iconic name is that it did not directly result in a score, as did "The Catch", "The Play", "The Music City Miracle" and so on. However, neither did "The Catch (baseball)", except that the latter has been replayed so many times it's as if it was the only event in the 1954 World Series. We'll just have to see if the Manning-to-Tyree catch ends up with its own unique name and gets replayed for the next 50 years. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 11:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:43, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Important Info

Shouldn't there be more game info in this article? WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 16:03, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reactions section

I inserted a desired link for the "America's team" quote, an interview with Clark on the 25th anniversary, but I'm not convinced this ever happened. Clark's says that 'they turned to Joe' , which most likely indicates it would have been immediately after the touchdown. However, the game wasn't over yet, and the rest of the article says San Francisco might have lost had it not been for a tackle after a reception and a later sack resulting in a fumble recovery. Would Jones have given up so early and Montana have been so confident right after the touchdown? I don't think so.

On a different issue, characterizing this quote as the 'best' reaction is POV. BaldPete (talk) 23:59, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was a touchdown with a minute left...I think the feeling of most people AT THAT VERY SECOND was that the 49ers had won. Furthermore, there are numerous players who have said that exchange happened. 99.17.207.81 (talk) 08:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you can identify and cite sources for these numerous players, insert them into the article. ThatSaved (talk) 18:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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What about Bill Walsh?

There is a problem with attribution here. I'm sure he had something to do with 'engineering' the drive.66.217.5.31 (talk) 01:36, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]