Talk:The Canongate/Archive 1

Archive 1

Burgh status

I note the description of Canongate as a separate burgh until 1856. However, I am not seeing it listed in "List of burghs in Scotland" Nor am I seeing it amongst burghs listed in Common Good Land in Scotland, Andy Wightman and James Perman, 2005. Laurel Bush 09:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC).

Name of article.

The name of this article appears to breach the Wiki rule Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite and indefinite articles at beginning of name). 77.99.105.125 (talk) 23:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Lodge Canongate Kilwinning No.2

(message cross-posted from VE-feedback GermanJoe (talk) 14:22, 9 September 2013 (UTC))

Lodge Canongate Kilwinning No.2, formerly St Johns Lodge of The Canongate, was Chartered by Mother Kilwinning Lodge in 1677. The origin date the lodge is unknow. The date of 1736 affixed to the Lodge name in the wikipedia article is incorrect or misleading. It is not "officially "Lodge No.1"" as quoted by wikipedia as Lodge No.1 is a different Lodge (Lodge of Edinburgh (Mary's Chapel ) No.1) not to be confused with Lodge Canongate Kilwinning holding No.2 on the Roll of the Grand Lodge of Scotland. Robert Burns was indeed a member of Lodge Canongate Kilwinning and was also made it's Poet Laureate. The Chapel of St John (St Johns Chapel was constructed in 1735 and completed and concecrated in in 1736 and perhaps this is where the confusion over the date arrises. the Lodge has met in these premises constantly since 1736 but prior to that met in several locations in the Canongate including within the various premises of the Trades Incorporation of Wrights and Coopers of the Canongate to which the Lodge was associated with. For more information refer to the Lodge website www.lck2.co.uk Contact teh Lodge 77.95.177.44 (talk) 14:09, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Number 57 18:09, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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The Canongate → Canongate – no "the" per WP:THE (note other geography examples). --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 18:09, 12 October 2014 (UTC) ENeville (talk) 15:24, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Introduction has been reworded, obviating need for move (because "the Canongate" page title refers to the the city district, not the historic burgh.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kim Traynor (talk • contribs) 16:50, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Content addition appreciated, but we still want a title that conforms to Wikipedia:Naming conventions, including Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name). ENeville (talk) 17:59, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose. This is an unusual example, in that the name is the Canongate to contrast to Canongate the street (and perhaps also the historic district, unsure of that and it doesn't matter), unlike for example the Beatles which doesn't contrast to Beatles. This contrast is what would normally be marked by capitalising the The, but in this case it isn't which is what makes this an exception. So the intent but not the letter of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name) is best followed by the existing name. It's unusual enough not to warrant tweaking and complicating the naming convention, better to just make it clear that this is an exception and invoke WP:IAR. Andrewa (talk) 17:51, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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"many of the houses in the Canongate of Edinburgh belong to different counties in Scotland"

"Ross and Cromarty". Encyclopædia Britannica. Vol. XIX (8th ed.). Black. 1859. p. 425. {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help):

as a part of the county of Cromarty, we are compelled to notice Royston, or Caroline Park, locally situated within the county of Edinburgh, and but a couple of miles from the Scottish capital. .. many of the houses in the Canongate of Edinburgh belong to different counties in Scotland, from their having been the town residences of Scottish noblemen whose estates lay in those different shires

Was this true? jnestorius^(talk) 21:51, 11 May 2018 (UTC)