Talk:The Call (band)

Proposed move

Proposed for simplicity's sake. "The Call" is not being used for anything else, but the move is still obstructed.— Bjones 13:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Survey

• Oppose - I don't understand what you mean when you say "The Call" is not being used for anything else. There are a half-dozen links on the disambiguation page, for everything from newspapers to TV shows. -- nae'blis 00:25, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment, when I search for The Call, I get a blank page, not a disambiguation page. As to why it's blank, I don't know.Bjones 13:03, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

• Support - The Call is not in current use, and no other obvious associations come to mind. Chubbles1212 07:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose - The Call is a disambiguation page with lots of links. I don't know how anybody gets a blank page, or says it's "not in current use". Are we looking at the same Wikipedia? -GTBacchus^(talk) 21:29, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hm. That's quite strange - The Call was definitely missing at the time I edited Call to include a reference to the band. Support withdrawn. Chubbles1212 01:27, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Move not accepted - The Call's disambiguation is back. BTW, I saw a blank page initially too. Considering there are many articles with the same name, this move request cannot be completed. - Ganeshk (talk) 04:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Image Fix

Could someone please fix the spelling of the name "Michael" in the image? Chubbles1212 18:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Heh, looks like somebody fixed the problem by deleting the image. Such are the ways of the Wiki these days. Chubbles 15:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

We should also fix the links: the two members who link to active pages, are to different people with the same name, who presumably need to be disambiguated. --Salvadors 22:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Image is wrong. I don't recall any Call album with a bloody phone, and I have them all, even the out of print ones from the Mercury years.

Wiki Links

Most of the names from the Call of which are wiki linked do not seem to have any pages when they are clicked and linked upon. Leading one to a conclusion that this page has not been polished nor worked on in a while
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Berniethomas68 19:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Christian band?

The Call is a Christian rock band, isn't it? I'm surprised that this is not mentioned anywhere in the article. I'm not Christian myself, but it seems to me that this should be mentioned, at least in passing, if this is important to the band. Plus, there is no real description of what their music sounds like. BobCubTAC (talk) 21:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

This goes to the long-time argument about what makes a band a "Christian band." Michael Been is known to be a Christian, but even if each of the other members is, is that all it takes to be called that? There seems to be a difference between a band with Christian members and a Christian band, as bands such as King's X, Galactic Cowboys, and U2 have always been quick to point out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchell k dwyer (talk • contribs) 05:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Good point, although with songs such as "Let The Day Begin" as well as the meaning behind the band's name, it seems that Christianity is indeed an important element of the band and its songs. I just think this is a subject about which at least some basic definitive information should be included in the article. I may even research it myself if I can make the time to do so. BobCubTAC (talk) 07:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

A band having Christian members doesn't make them a Christian band, sure, but if they start preaching from the stage the label seems apt. The lyrics to many songs by The Call contain Christian metaphors or biblical references... but then again, you can hardly put a hero in a story anymore without someone calling the character a 'Christ figure'. I think it's a question of motivation: did the band intend to push a Christian message, or did Christians hear echos of their own message in the band's music? The Call doesn't (very explicitly) pander or preach, so even the Christians aren't sure how to answer this: they may be "Christian rock", but they aren't "Christian-rock". For listeners who prefer a more nonsectarian message, this is an important distinction... The Call, like Creed (for instance), chose to restrict the realm of their music's interpretation in a way that (again, for instance) U2 did not. 71.193.182.174 (talk) 01:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

What can be mentioned though, is that one of their songs, "I Still Believe" was licensed in 1987 to be covered/released on the self-titled album of Christian singer Russ Taff. While this in and of itself does not a Christian Band make, it does show that they had no objections to the song being used in such am overt religious way. One thing I think should be put into the current page is the fact that this song was covered by Russ Taff in addition to Tim Cappello. 206.80.71.209 (talk) 21:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

U2 has a song called Forty that is from the Psalms, are they a Christian band? Are we going to call them a Christian band? The Call never presented themselves as a "Christian" band or even a crossover band like Amy Grant did in the 1980's. Biblical metaphors are a part of American culture. I don't know that it matters unless you are trying to type cast them into the Jan and Paul Crouch crowd with big hair. I don't think they fit that. Kristinwt (talk) 10:26, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

References

Location

I could not find anything in my quick search that referenced San Fran. Everything pointed to Santa Cruz. So, I changed it. Kristinwt (talk) 10:26, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Opened for Peter Gabriel

My recollection of The Call was as the opener for the Plays Live compilation tours which I believe to have preceded the release of "Shock the Monkey". Enjoyed their sound and style at the former open air Universal Amphitheater way back then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.88.193 (talk) 07:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Source

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Call_(band)&diff=832735047&oldid=832527455 this edit claims that WP:SELFPUBLISH is violated by the inclusion of the blog entry, http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/02/26/the-call-reunion-robert-levon-been-brmc/, to support the claim that there was a two-show reunion and who the member were. It states that such sources are "largely not acceptable as sources", not that they are "never acceptable as sources". The policy then goes on to state when they are acceptable. In this case, the author appears to be a sufficiently reliable source for this sort of reference despite being a blog. The author's focus is on this era of music, and the subject is, or least was, in the area. This isn't a mommy-blogger who just mentioned this to fill out a specific day's need. Granted, it would be nice to see a more reliable source in its place. I'd be happy to take this reference to WP:RSN if challenged. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:20, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

A new source (reliable this time) was added instead. wp:self published sources must not be included when there are plenty of RS available with search engines. Woovee (talk) 20:03, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Just to clarify, the other source did not fail RS. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:08, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Just played again

I don't know how to edit these pages, but they just played, in Tulsa I think, like right now(8/28/2021 7:15 pm central US)(likely still on stage):

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=893113114616263&ref=notif&notif_id=1630195385008809&notif_t=live_video — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.21.151.251 (talk) 00:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. It's not really clear if this is a tribute to the band, the re-formed band, or something else. Also, not clear if the poster has copyright clearance, but regardless, Wikipedia has this guideline that we don't publish everything that a notable subject does. You can see that at WP:NOTNEWS. That would apply here. If a reliable source gave some context to this performance, we might add it to the article. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:31, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Here's a YouTube video of the interview inducting them into the OK Music Hall of Fame...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnYgt2WXUto

That interview is after both the induction show and the show at Maggie's Music Box, and there is talk about future dates in the interview. The band was actively performing in the Tulsa area, last year, as The Call--and there is talk of future dates. If an actual interview with the band members, in their own words isn't proof enough of a reformation then I don't know what is. 2604:CB00:52E:3E00:4574:6A6E:D61A:1ED (talk) 08:10, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

It was a show inducting them into the Oklahoma Music Hall of Fame, it should be well documented, and is reliable, also Scott Musick has fliers for upcoming shows in the Tulsa area, billed as The Call, Maggies Music Box in Jenks, Oct 1st 2021. It appears that at least the Tulsa members of the band are performing shows as The Call locally.