Talk:The Bonnie Blue Flag
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[edit]This article needs fixed up. It is clearly not objective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.17.34 (talk) 04:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Removed Longstreet section
[edit]I removed the paragraph containing a long passage from the unidentifed memoirs of "General Longstreet" (presumably James Longstreet). It seems to be here because of the charm of Longstreet's Victorian prose, but is only tangentially related to the subject of the article. It also contains unexplained references to a "resignation," "the Texas girl," etc. This is not the place for it. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 21:28, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
P.S. Removed the preceding sentence about "General Butler" arresting a song publisher, which was flagged last month as needing a citation. If one is found and the passage is restored, please include a link to Benjamin Franklin Butler (politician), the "General Butler" who commanded Union forces in New Orleans. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 21:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Confederate States of America National Anthem
[edit]I believe that "The Bonnie Blue Flag" was the Confederate States of America's National Anthem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.182.35.103 (talk) 14:13, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- The CSA had no official anthem, but Bonnie Blue Flag was one of the unofficial anthems, along with others. Billyyank1861 (talk) 02:23, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 12 August 2018
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: reverted to stable title, The Bonnie Blue Flag, as the "(song)" title was the result of a recent, undiscussed move (see WP:RMTR). If you would like to propose a new title for the article, please initiate a new move request. Dekimasuよ! 01:32, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
The Bonnie Blue Flag (song) → The Bonnie Blue Flag – Already redirects here, the flag itself is at "Bonnie Blue Flag". PatGallacher (talk) 00:11, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
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Could the "Fighting for our Liberty" version be the original?
[edit]I've found fairly concrete evidence that the "Fighting for our Liberty" version of the song to be the original, my evidence is a song sheet produced by A. E. Blackmar & Brother, and pretty prominent producer of Confederate sheet music, this song sheet is dated from 1861, and clearly shows the line "Fighting for our Liberty, with treasure, blood, and toil." I shall post a link to the song sheet. https://www.loc.gov/resource/ihas.200002488.0/?sp=2
--Wardie1993 (talk) 03:44, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't have access to my notes from forty-five years ago when I was researching this as part of an AP American History paper, but I recall reference to a version that was "Fighting for the property we gained by honest toil," meant as a direct reference to enslaved Black people. 73.160.151.162 (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Text of the song
[edit]I must say that the song's lyric are not 100% correctly set down here (or that there are slightly different versions). In the ones I'm just listening to, the chorus after the two last verses differs from the others. Also "on high", not just "high" in verse 5. The verse with "Davis" is also slightly different. But, I will try to listen to more issues (?) of this song on Spotify.-Ralfdetlef (talk) 19:59, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Fry Cook Games misattributed?
[edit]The opening montage song in the SpongeBob episode "Fry Cook Games" seems to be an original song and does not sound any thing like the Bonnie blue flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:3003:3E01:7C00:75AF:61E6:488A:8A92 (talk) 17:49, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Is It True That It's (Still) Illegal to Sing The Bonnie Blue Flag?
[edit]While attending a reenactment of the Battle of San Jacinto in Houston a few years back, one of the announcers dressed as Texas troops from the 1830s proclaimed that they were now going to break the law. How? By singing The Bonnie Blue Flag, which, according to them, was illegal and could land them in jail. (While they sang, I thought, "Well, in view of the fact that there is no chance of their being arrested, I don't really see how this is such a daring deed" and, by the way, the Union forever, hurrah, boys hurrah; however, this (alleged) defiance may explain the many instances of the song appearing in Hollywood movies.)
But — the question remains: is there any truth to the fact that a law was once written (in Congress? in Austin?), presumably after, or even during, the Civil War — a law that never seems to have been enforced (as it is unenforceable) — to make singing this tune illegal?
The only instance I can find online is “Bonnie Blue Flag:” The Most Dangerous Song of the Civil War by Jessica Anne Dauterive. But that only concerns one Southern city in the 1860s, not the entire country in the century and a half since then. (With General Benjamin Butler's General Order No. 40, "owning or singing one of the most popular songs of the period became an act of treason. Arrest records from New Orleans papers reveal that men and women were regularly arrested for singing 'Bonnie Blue Flag,' and were charged with a range of penalties, from a fine to time in the workhouse to a full pardon.") ˜˜˜˜ Asteriks (talk) 15:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)