Talk:The Association

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expansion

Since no one else had, I figured I'd take a stab at expanding this article. Let me know your feedback.Rdmtimp 01:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks GREAT, except for a few typos, which I'll take care of. But, what are your sources? Need to cite these. -- PKtm 01:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the bottom (under Sources)Rdmtimp 03:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Citations & References

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> Nhl4hamilton (talk) 05:14, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why are there so few references, especially in History?--Daveler16 (talk) 14:29, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Along The Way (PF Sloan)

'Along The Way' and 'P.F. Sloan' are separate songs. Perhaps 'Travel' Guide' is a subtitle for 'P.F. Sloan'? Check out 'The Association Anthology' -- 'Just The Right Sound'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.103.154 (talk) 21:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Protest Song(s)?

The Kyrie page mentions this group and refers to an anti-Vietnam war song. This doesn't seem to be mentioned here. Could it be added? Anyone know if the song was a one-off in their canon, or could they be called an 'anti-war' band? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.88.9 (talk) 16:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a guess but may be "Requiem for the Masses". There was also a tune on the eponymous album - Boy on the Mountain - that also might be a candidate for that distinction. Again, just guessing.THX1136 (talk) 19:42, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This article goes on too long past the end of the story...

This article is not too long but it goes on way too long past the end of the story. What I mean is that the interesting part of the band's history is the period when they recorded their handful of hit singles. That was about 40 years ago. The band has kept playing since then, and god bless them for that.... but should the post-hit section be so long? It is longer than the main part of the article! Do we really need that level of detail when the band wasn't putting out any more significant material or doing anything of great note aside from touring and cashing in on their early hits? 04:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

On the contrary. I find it quite interesting reading about the band's later career. Eligius (talk) 02:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Makes Me Cry"

As far as I can tell, "Makes Me Cry", the b-side of "That's Racin'", is the same track as "Funny Kind of Song" from the Stop Your Motor LP. The single is mono, while the LP is stereo. It's listed in the discography as a non-album track. 65.96.240.112 (talk) 16:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC) adavis[reply]

Thanks, I never spotted that before. It's fixed now.--Martin IIIa (talk) 02:38, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Beginnings

The 3rd Paragraph in the Beginnings section is quite jumbled and hard to read - so amny parentheses! Any objection to a little re-writing? No adding or subtracting, just organizing? --Daveler16 (talk) 15:48, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Did it. I think it's much cleaner. --Daveler16 (talk) 14:57, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kenny Rogers' connection to this band?

I'm very confused. I watched a YouTube video of Cherish by Kenny Rogers and The First Edition (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2aQHwg33Uw), and at the very beginning Rogers says, "This was a really big hit song for us back in 1965. We called ourselves The Association then, though." But this article says the song was released in September 1966 and doesn't say a word about Rogers ever having having anything to do with The Association or the song. Cherish (The Association song) only says that Kenny Rogers and The First Edition covered the song, but says nothing about them actually being The Association previously. Kenny Rogers and The First Edition and Kenny Rogers also say nothing about Rogers' claimed connection to The Association and the song. Can anyone solve this mystery? 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:3059:8016:5847:3E43 (talk) 11:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I believe in the YouTube video, Rogers is just making a joke, acknowledging the song was originally a hit for the Association and that his version is a cover. --hulmem (talk) 17:22, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, it was not a joke. I just found this book about The Association called "The Association ‘Cherish’: The Story of America’s First Folk-Rock Band" (https://books.google.com/books?id=2m9ZDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA124&lpg=PA124&dq=Kenny+Rogers+%22the+Association%22+Cherish&source=bl&ots=wH0TQo3OFv&sig=V6PWP2gdodK-8QHJ-cfHnrdX1co&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjSkrKmyNTdAhUlFjQIHSE8CmEQ6AEwCHoECGIQAQ#v=onepage&q=Kenny%20Rogers%20%22the%20Association%22%20Cherish&f=false) and on page 124 it says that Rogers joined the band in 1965 ("The Texan-born Kenny Rogers would join up shortly afterwards..." Now I'm even more confused. 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:3059:8016:5847:3E43 (talk) 21:28, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In the context of the link you included it sounds like a group in flux - perhaps the group known as The Men mentioned in the article. It mentions Barry McGuire and Gene Clark also. McGuire would have been New Christy Minstrels around that time and Clark would likely have been pre-Byrds.THX1136 (talk) 19:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Crank Your Spreaders

The external links below are solely for finding/verifying information regarding Crank Your Spreaders. The title appears to have no ISBN, Google Books has no preview or useful information for the first edition, I could not find the second edition online, and online retailers are currently selling the third edition for about $100 as a rare/valuable item. To back up my edit, "Hip to be square" on popmusiclibrary.org stated the first edition "was published between the band's second and third albums" sometime in 1966 and the back cover of what seems to be the third edition on 45worlds.com stated the authorship to be "original poems, stories, drawings, pictures and biographies of and by Russ Giguere, Terry Kirkman, Brian Cole, Ted Bluechel, Jim Yester and Larry Ramos". As these link out to photographs of the copyrighted work, I didn't include them in the article body. 73.37.211.177 (talk) 06:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BMI list

Just added mention of their other two songs on the BMI list of the 100 Moast Played in the 20th Century. Daveler16 (talk) 19:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]